Passing up the chance for real on track verification,testing and development in favour of sitting on it all winter with no knowledge of it's success or failure, apart from the proven to be unreliable in-house testing methods, until it got put into a STR in pre-season would sum up everything wrong about Honda's return to F1 I'm afraid to say and explains perfectly why we are where we are.Wazari wrote: ↑13 Sep 2017, 23:38I am guessing that if the divorce is real and it seems it is, then Honda will likely not release it to McLaren even if it's ready to go.Joseki wrote: ↑13 Sep 2017, 09:21Wazari wrote in the team topic that spec 4 will not hit the track this year, that means two things:
1) I was right about it getting delayed to 2018 like it was for the "Malesian update" last year
2) No real update this year, McLaren-Honda will suck until their very last moment.
The update is real, but now Honda will concentrate on next season exclusively and no incentive to rush the Spec 4.
Wazari-san would this be the case because Spec 4 won't be ready this year or Honda would not want McLaren to know the IP and other details about their latest engine which will supposedly will be a big step ahead?
nope just destroying A Bridge Too Far.HPD wrote: ↑14 Sep 2017, 02:24Is a Toro Rosso Honda, crossing the bridge (? haha
is Mclaren more valuable to ALO ?!! he was in a Ferrari 5 years sweet bitterness , why you assume he is already Mclaren driver in 2018 ? what he will achieve ? nothing nada zilch zero .. Mclaren budget in 2018 will take a hit of 180m$ adios Honda welcome Renault.MrPotatoHead wrote: ↑14 Sep 2017, 05:29And why bash McLaren for giving up after a disastrous 3 years? Alonso is more valuable to McLaren than a failing engine.
And the proof is in the points - 212 vs 11. McLaren are making a good choice for next year.
Thank you for your kind words. I am confident that the Spec 4 will see the light of day, just probably not in a McLaren at this point.
I mean, we've heard this all before. Multiple times.Wazari wrote: ↑14 Sep 2017, 07:43Without going into details, the roll-out of the "Spec 4" whether this season or next will not have the "teething" problems that this current PU had. It will have been more "seasoned" that any other PU even before it gets attached to the chassis. The chassis to PU relationship is the biggest unknown but typically not a big hurdle unless the layout and weight distribution deltas between the old/new PU's are significant.
I am confident that the next configuration PU will be a pleasant surprise. Also don't place too much credence to the HP deltas published by journalists. Some of the figures make me laugh out loud. As I said before, ERS management and fuel efficiency are the biggest hurdles now and the hurdles are getting much smaller.
Perhaps, but Wazari's batting average is quite a bit higher than other sources.
OK. There is Renault engine thread! I havent heard thit multiple times before. this is about spec 4.Nicktendo86 wrote: ↑14 Sep 2017, 10:08I mean, we've heard this all before. Multiple times.Wazari wrote: ↑14 Sep 2017, 07:43Without going into details, the roll-out of the "Spec 4" whether this season or next will not have the "teething" problems that this current PU had. It will have been more "seasoned" that any other PU even before it gets attached to the chassis. The chassis to PU relationship is the biggest unknown but typically not a big hurdle unless the layout and weight distribution deltas between the old/new PU's are significant.
I am confident that the next configuration PU will be a pleasant surprise. Also don't place too much credence to the HP deltas published by journalists. Some of the figures make me laugh out loud. As I said before, ERS management and fuel efficiency are the biggest hurdles now and the hurdles are getting much smaller.