Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by PlatinumZealot » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:12 am

That's a Mclaren team member. That is the 2016 Power unit.

Press page up a few times and the 2017 power unit will appear before your eyes.
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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by HPD » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:58 pm

“Regarding our race research and development institute from Honda, obviously we are going to work on minute details for the Spec 3,” says Honda motorsport chief Masashi Yamamoto.

“But simultaneously, we're going to be very concentrated on the specs for next year. This year's spec is mainly all decided for this year, so the last half of this year now will be quite focused on the development of the specs for next year. But all the others will be focused on the engine for next year, too.”
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/head ... ngine.html

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by Revs84 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:41 am

On Hartley's ICE failure:

Honda does not reveal details, but it seems that the rotating parts of the ICE have physically broken.

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/smart/c ... ndex_4.php

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by bigblue » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:23 pm

If it's really quality control, that's probably the best outcome, better than design flaw anyway.

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by anthonyfa18 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:10 am

So no Magic vtec power mode for the honda pu yet, that really odd how was gasly abel to pull of that 5 place Qualification in barium with out it ??? Can it be honda removed it because if Reliability??? Or can it be there wait for a new fuel for esso/Mobil bring the mode in ???

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by McMika98 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:12 am

anthonyfa18 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:10 am
So no Magic vtec power mode for the honda pu yet, that really odd how was gasly abel to pull of that 5 place Qualification in barium with out it ??? Can it be honda removed it because if Reliability??? Or can it be there wait for a new fuel for esso/Mobil bring the mode in ???
Get a feeling the new spec PU is still being nursed around and not being run at max. Still very similar performance to Renault with the new Q3 map and mguk.

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by bigblue » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:26 am

McMika98 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:12 am
Get a feeling the new spec PU is still being nursed around and not being run at max. Still very similar performance to Renault with the new Q3 map and mguk.
Total guess, but I agree. A couple of reliability niggles, plus what seems to be a slight downturn in performance compared to it's debut (at least that's my impression, straightline speeds were very good at its first race), so maybe conservative whilst the reliability is investigated ?

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by PlatinumZealot » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:08 pm

anthonyfa18 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:10 am
So no Magic vtec power mode for the honda pu yet, that really odd how was gasly abel to pull of that 5 place Qualification in barium with out it ??? Can it be honda removed it because if Reliability??? Or can it be there wait for a new fuel for esso/Mobil bring the mode in ???
Likley. If I remember the Spec 3 engine family had a qualifying mode by the end of the season. Honda probably playing it safe with the new family of engines.
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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by Revs84 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:37 pm

PlatinumZealot wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:08 pm
anthonyfa18 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:10 am
So no Magic vtec power mode for the honda pu yet, that really odd how was gasly abel to pull of that 5 place Qualification in barium with out it ??? Can it be honda removed it because if Reliability??? Or can it be there wait for a new fuel for esso/Mobil bring the mode in ???
Likley. If I remember the Spec 3 engine family had a qualifying mode by the end of the season. Honda probably playing it safe with the new family of engines.
I believe this was discussed a while back and the presumption was that it was more about energy management than a particular engine mapping that turns it up.

From Gasly's comment it seems that they don't at the moment and would be quite strange if Honda actually had it and dropped it.

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by anthonyfa18 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:46 pm

Image

honda 2018 fuel pressure pump vs Mercedes 2018

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by gshevlin » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:17 pm

One general comment i would make about "qualifying modes" is that, with the dramatically increased life requirements for the entire power unit component collection this season, the use of higher-power modes is likely to be much more restricted across all power unit suppliers this season. The life reduction of using the more aggressive modes is not sustainable if you really want to obey the power unit component usage rules. So, if Honda's "qualifying mode" is merely a wee bit more powerful than race mode, there may be a good reason for that. Ditto Renault.

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by anthonyfa18 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:42 pm

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british gp shot of the honda pu

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by Zynerji » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:01 am

anthonyfa18 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:42 pm
https://cdn-7.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... 3-rear.jpg


british gp shot of the honda pu
Where? Behind all of the things that are in the way? :lol:

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by anthonyfa18 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:29 pm

Can it be a upgrade unit, or is it the same spec as Canada ????

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hart ... h-1057550/

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Re: Honda Power Unit

Post by Walkman » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:52 pm

Same spec.