Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by bigblue » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:17 am

Slo Poke wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:18 am
Snorked wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:27 pm
Photo three: the cart is in front of the horse!
Japanese reads R to L :-)

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Slo Poke » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:03 pm

bigblue wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:17 am
Slo Poke wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:18 am
Snorked wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:27 pm
Photo three: the cart is in front of the horse!
Japanese reads R to L :-)
Aha! You’re only half right on that my friend. Top to bottom actually, with all resultant columns right to left.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by bigblue » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:02 pm

Slo Poke wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:03 pm
bigblue wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:17 am
Slo Poke wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:18 am
Japanese reads R to L :-)
Aha! You’re only half right on that my friend. Top to bottom actually, with all resultant columns right to left.
OK, yes, you are correct, R to L for when text is vertical. This perception of R to L can change how you "read" pictures, e.g. Hokusai's "Great Wave" (ok, "Under the Wave off Kanagawa" to be more exact). Are the boats running from the wave or heading straight into it ?

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Slo Poke » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:19 am

bigblue wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:02 pm
Slo Poke wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:03 pm
bigblue wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:17 am

Japanese reads R to L :-)
Aha! You’re only half right on that my friend. Top to bottom actually, with all resultant columns right to left.
OK, yes, you are correct, R to L for when text is vertical. This perception of R to L can change how you "read" pictures, e.g. Hokusai's "Great Wave" (ok, "Under the Wave off Kanagawa" to be more exact). Are the boats running from the wave or heading straight into it ?
Judging by what is discernible of the boat/oarsmen, it appears the boats are heading into the wave. However all this does not alter the fact that Honda have blindly carried over from the early KERS years an excusable mistake made back then. (likely as not influenced by some of the teams adopting centrifuge KERS).
Think torque curves; vertical electric as opposed to ICE and mix it in your mind with the power to weight ratio. There’s two, three tenths begging there. The KERS motor, or call it what you want, really ought be at the rear of the engine, not crippled at the front.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by nzjrs » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:12 pm

Interesting. First on track engine failure for the season?

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Bill » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:19 pm

It's a Friday pu that have done its time

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by nzjrs » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:28 pm

Edit: second failure? That was odd, cut out before any sign of smoke and then hit the barrier.

Friday engines certainly. Hopefully they get some information on the cause/s

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by HPD » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:47 pm



Tanabe: Towards the end of the session, the ICE on Gasly’s car failed and then Kvyat crashed due to a complete shutdown and with the team, we are now investigating the cause of both these problems. However, they have no effect on the rest of the weekend from a PU point of view, as both of them were running “Friday only” PUs, due to be changed tonight.
https://scuderiatororosso.redbull.com/e ... -practice/

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Wouter » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:54 pm

Tanabe: Towards the end of the session, the ICE on Gasly’s car failed and then Kvyat crashed due to a complete shutdown and with the team, we are now investigating the cause of both these problems. However, they have no effect on the rest of the weekend from a PU point of view, as both of them were running “Friday only” PUs, due to be changed tonight.
https://en.hondaracingf1.com/races/2019 ... b=practice

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by PlatinumZealot » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:59 am

The power is now on par with Mercedes in qualifying? Or is it because of altitude?
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by LM10 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:17 am

PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:59 am
The power is now on par with Mercedes in qualifying? Or is it because of altitude?
Mercedes engineers told that they believe that Honda is strong in high altitudes which shows that they have advantages on electrical side.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Sieper » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:42 am

Altitude. It mitegates performance difference. But Honda is getting there. Hopefully they are now truely close.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by siskue2005 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:06 am

LM10 wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:17 am
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:59 am
The power is now on par with Mercedes in qualifying? Or is it because of altitude?
Mercedes engineers told that they believe that Honda is strong in high altitudes which shows that they have advantages on electrical side.
No, high altitude performance comes from the ICE alone not the electrical side coz the high altitude has thinner air which favours engines with smaller Turbo (which Honda has).
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Tzk » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:33 am

I'm aware that the teams may use more than 4mj per lap as long as the "empty" and "fully charged" state of the battery are only 4mj apart, but maybe this makes Honda gain a bit of performance on short tracks? Or maybe this makes Ferrari suffer a bit more than everybody else, because their magical boost is from the ERS?

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Bill » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:28 am

If Max didn't have a small lockup in austin he would have been pole so Honda has power everywhere not just high altitude tracks