Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
Jef Patat
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downshifts sounds normal, but upshift??? wtf?

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majki2111
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So can someone sumarise why they are having vibration problem?

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FW17
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someone wrote:
06 Mar 2017, 07:41
there is a rough unicorn running around inside the engine (reference to flight of conchords)! :roll:

ollandos
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HPD wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 16:39
Listen when you change gears

(Watch before they block the video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2V7NFz ... e=youtu.be
all my wish to the turbo .....honda ask 2 months ..but i think they dont have this time ...must be run new engine on the test and be on the car for russia ...or spain ..but its critical to take the opportunity for real track test ...and for the this weekend weather its going to be tricky ..if god have some rain i hope to make it exactly on the right time ...

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HPD wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 16:39
Listen when you change gears

(Watch before they block the video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2V7NFz ... e=youtu.be
Is that a problem related to seamless shifting?

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FW17
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3jawchuck wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 16:56
HPD wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 16:39
Listen when you change gears

(Watch before they block the video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2V7NFz ... e=youtu.be
Is that a problem related to seamless shifting?

More like having to lift manually off the throttle while shifting up the gears so that engine is at a lower rev than normal

PABLOEING
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¿New engine in two months?.....¿BCN?

hurril
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Would someone knowledgable like to explain or talk a little about how vibrations can be like this? I mean - this is extreme!

Jef Patat
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You mean speculate?

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Postmoe
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Jef Patat wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 17:42
You mean speculate?
Yes, please. We need people speculating. Intense speculating.

hurril
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Jef Patat wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 17:42
You mean speculate?
No I meant what I said. I would like actual technical conversation in this thread from people that know things. There are plenty about but you are probably not one of them.

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Andres125sx
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HPD wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 16:39
Listen when you change gears

(Watch before they block the video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2V7NFz ... e=youtu.be
Thanks for posting

That last upshift.... well, all of them sound terrible, but the last one in the video looks like if the gear was refusing to be engaged :shock:

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FW17
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hurril wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 18:17
Jef Patat wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 17:42
You mean speculate?
No I meant what I said. I would like actual technical conversation in this thread from people that know things. There are plenty about but you are probably not one of them.
Last we speculated were on 3 areas (as reason for vibration)

1) too much of the engine structure shaved off for weight saving

2) TJI causing vibrations

3) Valves getting too hot

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FW17
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toraabe wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 16:09
GoranF1 wrote:
24 Mar 2017, 13:46
Honda prepares new PU in cca 2 months....and the reason upshift sound so strange is explained here...

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... ne-885582/
Oscillations ? Mostly due to flexing driveshafts....
Gearbox
I hope they mule test this engine at Twin Ring Motegi before they bring it anywhere near a F1 race

Singabule
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I think wazari is reading our post, i see him online few hours ayo, or maybe glenntws could analyze few. My question is why honda not produce their own gearbox, their 9 speed DCT almost as smooth as PDK..sorry little OT
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