Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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For what it's worth the exhaust manifold is different to last year.
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I'm not sure if this one has been mentioned yet... A great look inside how Ferrari avoid pre-ignition.

Model-Based Pre-Ignition Diagnostics in a Race Car Application
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... pplication

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subcritical71 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:13 pm
I'm not sure if this one has been mentioned yet... A great look inside how Ferrari avoid pre-ignition.

Model-Based Pre-Ignition Diagnostics in a Race Car Application
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... pplication
Having seen all the races, it seems not only are they avoiding pre-ignition, but ignition and post-ignition as well.

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subcritical71 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:13 pm
I'm not sure if this one has been mentioned yet... A great look inside how Ferrari avoid pre-ignition.

Model-Based Pre-Ignition Diagnostics in a Race Car Application
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... pplication
Very interesting.
I would like to know if it is possible to use the fuel which is not injected in a cylinder (during a third level recovery) to increase the fuel flow to the remaining 5 so that to limit the loss in power.
I'm still learning English so please excuse me if my English is not good enough and feel free to correct me via PM if you want.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:48 pm
For what it's worth the exhaust manifold is different to last year.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh8iW-UWoAA ... me=900x900
Looks like the same old Hanukkah candle thingy to me.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:30 pm
MtthsMlw wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:48 pm
For what it's worth the exhaust manifold is different to last year.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh8iW-UWoAA ... me=900x900
Looks like the same old Hanukkah candle thingy to me.
Idk to me the 2019 one looks more intertwined.
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Yes it seems slightly different at the collector.
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Xwang wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:59 pm
Very interesting.
I would like to know if it is possible to use the fuel which is not injected in a cylinder (during a third level recovery) to increase the fuel flow to the remaining 5 so that to limit the loss in power.
Theoretically you could. But that would push the cylinder pressures in a danger zone, and it would also heat up the chamber and push other cylinders in the pre-ignition zone.

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factory_p wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:11 pm
Xwang wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:59 pm
Very interesting.
I would like to know if it is possible to use the fuel which is not injected in a cylinder (during a third level recovery) to increase the fuel flow to the remaining 5 so that to limit the loss in power.
Theoretically you could. But that would push the cylinder pressures in a danger zone, and it would also heat up the chamber and push other cylinders in the pre-ignition zone.
I think they all do this at part load so that's not a problem.
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Xwang wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:59 pm
subcritical71 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:13 pm
I'm not sure if this one has been mentioned yet... A great look inside how Ferrari avoid pre-ignition.

Model-Based Pre-Ignition Diagnostics in a Race Car Application
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... pplication
Very interesting.
I would like to know if it is possible to use the fuel which is not injected in a cylinder (during a third level recovery) to increase the fuel flow to the remaining 5 so that to limit the loss in power.
I remember they did in Bahrein when LeClerc lost 1 cilinder.

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It seems that Garrett Motion is in Chapter 11:
https://www.formulapassion.it/automoto/ ... 19957.html

Garrett Motion (former Honeywell Transportation Systems) is Supplier of Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team.
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I posted this idea in the car thread.
Apparently, all Ferrari-powered teams made big gains in qualifying at Nurburgring:
via viewtopic.php?p=933827#p933827

So, can it be that colder weather helped Ferrari PSU? Can it be they have heat management issues?
E.g. what if the fuel flow trick was mostly meant to keep knock under control rather than to extract extra caloric energy?

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Guys sorry for the out of context question, but can someone please tell me how much Bhp the Ferrari and the other engines produce?

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ryaan2904 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:17 pm
Guys sorry for the out of context question, but can someone please tell me how much Bhp the Ferrari and the other engines produce?
We all desperately want to know :) There are at least to numbers for that anyway : peak / sustained BHP

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ryaan2904 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:17 pm
Guys sorry for the out of context question, but can someone please tell me how much Bhp the Ferrari and the other engines produce?
Around 1,000hp including the internal combustion engine and electric motor in steady state operation.
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