IndyCar Series

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Pierce89 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:48 am

lizardfolk wrote: The Detroit Belle Isle circuit is a huge far cry from Singapore or Valencia.
And all the better for it. Indycars have put on some great road racing for the last 2 seasons.
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Huntresa » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:57 am

lizardfolk wrote:I'm glad some of you found it enjoying. Despite being a huge IndyCar fan I have to admit the series is far from perfect and there's a handful of drivers who sometimes dive bombs more than they pass. For me, I watch both F1 and IndyCar, I personally dont think they should be mutually exclusive as there's things I love about IndyCar that I dont see in F1 but F1's professionalism and talent level is just top of the world.

Although I do have a suggestion to those new to IndyCar and who are used to F1. When an F1 car stalls or crash the way the tracks are designed lend it to be cleaned away easily without needing a full course caution. IndyCar tracks are still very "old school". Indy's street courses are still very much "ahhh just close the roads and let them race... no need runoffs". So because of this sometimes when a car stalls it requires the track to go full course yellow.

Which... very easily leads to Lap 1 pile-ups especially on such a narrow, bumpy, and old fashioned tracks. The Detroit Belle Isle circuit is a huge far cry from Singapore or Valencia.
Old school tracks are gr8, like Montreal and Canadas GP this weekend, sure it has runoff but not everywhere and its bumpy and its narrow and thats what makes it such an awesome track. Its not always fun with the tilkemonster tracks with more runoff then track.

Seeing as how safe the cars are today, i would like more tracks like Montreal or runoffs that arent tarmac but grass and gravel much like Melbourne, imagine if all the grass/gravel areas of Melbourne were to be Tarmac, how boring it would be.

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by scotty86 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:54 pm

I like watching IndyCar whenever i can, but i gotta say that second race was weekend was amateurish, and far more frustrating than entertaining.

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Sombrero » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:50 pm

In 1963, almost fifty years ago, Jim Clark won the first race for a rear-engined Indy Car in his Lotus 29-Ford at Milwaukee.

It's probably the best time to remember the greatest Indy Cars ever... I mean the fabulous roadsters !

http://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/2013 ... dster-era/

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by lizardfolk » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:23 am

scotty86 wrote:I like watching IndyCar whenever i can, but i gotta say that second race was weekend was amateurish, and far more frustrating than entertaining.
Yeah sometimes IndyCar can have it's... grassroots moments when everyone scrambles a little too hard. I admit F1's professionalism is tip top.

BTW here's the three IndyCar oval races... to anyone's first oval race I suggest watching Milwaukee.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9wdbPLPgD8[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEy6r7h7i-E[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb-qgnhOQtE[/youtube]

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Sombrero » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:22 pm

My racing heart is oval... Thank You again lizardfolk.

I really miss to this day the Trenton Speedway, but The Milwaukee Mile is fine.

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Not so long ago, I found this video from the 1978 Trenton 150 USAC race. It was great because I read about that race in the Automobil Revue (swiss german motorsport magazine) back in 1978. So it took 35 years to see a TV coverage of that race. It's just sad that the Trenton Speedway has disappeared since then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPJcbsH6ZTg

Great feeling, like riding a time travel machine...

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Sombrero » Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:13 pm

Next week on 07/07/13 the return of the Tricky Triangle in IndyCar series.

The Pocono track held 19 IndyCar races from 1971 until 1989, when it dropped it for financial reasons.

Here is a written report of the 1971 opening race : http://motorcaster.com/pocono-500-1971

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Dypk6bj_c[/youtube]

And here some nice drawings too : http://fasttrackrc.blogspot.ch/2009/06/ ... etzel.html

Happy Motoring !

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Sombrero » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:18 pm

http://racecontrol.indycar.com/

Now live qualifying for the Pocono Indycar 400...

1 Marco Andretti 1:21.3473 221.273 MPH
2 Ryan Hunter-Reay 1:21.4877 220.892 MPH
3 James Hinchcliffe 1:21.6583 220.431 MPH
4 Will Power 1:21.7118 220.286 MPH
5 Tony Kanaan 1:21.9577 219.625 MPH
6 Helio Castroneves 1:21.9742 219.581 MPH
7 Scott Dixon 1:22.0044 219.500 MPH
8 Takuma Sato 1:22.1453 219.124 MPH
9 Simon Pagenaud 1:22.2448 218.859 MPH
10 Simona De Silvestro 1:22.3458 218.590 MPH
11 Tristan Vautier (R) 1:22.3516 218.575 MPH
12 Sebastien Bourdais 1:22.3735 218.517 MPH
13 Charlie Kimball 1:22.4383 218.345 MPH
14 James Jakes 1:22.4780 218.240 MPH
15 Ed Carpenter 1:22.5310 218.100 MPH
16 Josef Newgarden 1:22.6324 217.832 MPH
17 Graham Rahal 1:22.7749 217.457 MPH
18 Dario Franchitti 1:22.9314 217.047 MPH
19 Pippa Mann 1:22.9570 216.980 MPH
20 Justin Wilson 1:22.9981 216.872 MPH
21 Sebastian Saavedra 1:23.4997 215.570 MPH
22 E.J. Viso No Time No Speed
23 Ryan Briscoe No Time No Speed
24 Alex Tagliani No Time No Speed

To compare with

NASCAR Qualifying: Joey Logano 179.598 mph (289.035 km/h), 2012
NASCAR Race: Jeff Gordon, 145.384 mph (233.972 km/h), June 12, 2011

CART Qualifying: Emerson Fittipaldi, 211.715 mph (340.722 km/h), 1989
CART Race: Danny Sullivan, 170.720 mph (274.747 km/h), 1989

No IndyCar races beetween 1990 and 2012

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Sombrero » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:31 pm

What a great return race ! The Pensylvanians on Target at home 1-2-3... a little bit like 1971 Mark Donohue's home win.

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by lizardfolk » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:24 am

I'll try to get the Pocono race up on youtube as soon as i can

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Pierce89 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:16 am

Sombrero wrote:What a great return race ! The Pensylvanians on Target at home 1-2-3... a little bit like 1971 Mark Donohue's home win.
Isn't Penske the team from Pennsylvania?
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by 1158 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:43 am

Pierce89 wrote:
Sombrero wrote:What a great return race ! The Pensylvanians on Target at home 1-2-3... a little bit like 1971 Mark Donohue's home win.
Isn't Penske the team from Pennsylvania?
Penske's shop used to be in Reading, PA. He moved his shop south to NC to consolidate his cup teams (Used to be Penske South) and open wheel/road race stuff under 1 roof.

http://www.penskeracing.com/about/index.cfm?cid=14190

Used to love driving by his shop when I was kid and seeing the cars outside being loaded up to go racing.

Friend's mom worked there. She brought him home a rear wing off Rick Mears Indy car one time. Lucky SOB

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Sombrero » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:49 am

By the way the 1971 Pocono 500 was the 1st Penske win in IndyCar.

I heard in the last minute of the 1971 Pocono 500 highlight (24:20 and more) that Mark was a good Pennsylvanian. Wasn't he a pennsylvanian resident (Media, PA) ?

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Sushant008 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:01 pm

lizardfolk wrote:I'll try to get the Pocono race up on youtube as soon as i can
hey TheIndySnake/lizardfolk!..really waiting for pocono race.. :) ..look like the race was really exciting!..thanks a lot for your work =D> keep it up!

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Re: IndyCar Series

Post by Pierce89 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:37 pm

1158 wrote:
Pierce89 wrote:
Sombrero wrote:What a great return race ! The Pensylvanians on Target at home 1-2-3... a little bit like 1971 Mark Donohue's home win.
Isn't Penske the team from Pennsylvania?
Penske's shop used to be in Reading, PA. He moved his shop south to NC to consolidate his cup teams (Used to be Penske South) and open wheel/road race stuff under 1 roof.

http://www.penskeracing.com/about/index.cfm?cid=14190

Used to love driving by his shop when I was kid and seeing the cars outside being loaded up to go racing.

Friend's mom worked there. She brought him home a rear wing off Rick Mears Indy car one time. Lucky SOB
I know that . I was just wondering why he was referring "the Pennsylvanians" when we had Dixon and Franchiti on the podium.
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher