2017 Tyres revealed

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Gridlock
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It does sound like someone's struggling to hit the old number, doesn't it. But yeah let's pretend we forgot about the tyres when setting the regs :roll:
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Dazed1
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Gridlock wrote:It does sound like someone's struggling to hit the old number, doesn't it. But yeah let's pretend we forgot about the tyres when setting the regs :roll:
When I look at those wide tires mounted on rims my back hurts a little, but then I am an old man. How much do the rears weigh each?

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Big Mangalhit
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According to that article they weight 3kg. Hardly any effort to lift i guess

roon
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Big Mangalhit wrote:According to that article they weight 3kg. Hardly any effort to lift i guess
Yeah, but there's like 40 pounds of air in them, too.

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Peter1919
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Big Mangalhit wrote:According to that article they weight 3kg. Hardly any effort to lift i guess
That 's 3kg extra for the rears over last year or 1.5kg on top of the weight of last year tyre

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godlameroso
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The entire wheel tyre assembly of the rear tires probably weighs 24kg each. The wheels themselves are light, the tires are not, and probably make up the bulk of the weight.

https://i.imgur.com/dI8QWLH.gifv
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Big Mangalhit
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Peter1919 wrote:
Big Mangalhit wrote:According to that article they weight 3kg. Hardly any effort to lift i guess
That 's 3kg extra for the rears over last year or 1.5kg on top of the weight of last year tyre
Damn I'm an idiot. If 24kg are the right weight then the back wheel tyre guys need to bulk up this winter. Maybe it also helps to have a counter weight on the back when changing the tyres.

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FrukostScones
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apparently VET crashed testing 2017 WET tyres :mrgreen:

http://autosprint.corrieredellosport.it ... okieAccept

crashed against guard rail, and had to be retrieved by a tractor to the box.

https://twitter.com/Gianludale27/status ... wsrc%5Etfw
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PlatinumZealot
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Yeah. That set was probably last year's compound lol
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I'd be amazed if the rear wheels and tyres weighed 24kg. I'd expect half of that, even with this years heavier tyres.

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godlameroso
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You're completely right, I wish I could blame it on dyslexia, but yes I got kg confused with lbs.
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strad
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unless something drastic has changed most of the weight is the rims,, the tire could be wadded up in your hands.. didn't weigh squat.
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namao
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Hembery (14 February 2017): "Will be less degradation, less wear. Also, will be less alternatives in strategies. The difference between compounds is going to be less than a second"

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dmjunqueira
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namao wrote:Hembery (14 February 2017): "Will be less degradation, less wear. Also, will be less alternatives in strategies. The difference between compounds is going to be less than a second"
I'm really trying to be optimistic about this new set of rules and the "spectacle" they might provide...But every time they talk about it, it seem's they are getting rid of all characteristics from the previous rules that led to some good races.

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Tim.Wright
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You can't have it all. These characteristics came at the expense of having the drivers being able to push the cars and that in turn had a lot of knock on effects which rendered the whole show pretty boring.

Perhaps there will be less variation due to strategy but at least you will be able to watch epic stints with drivers being able to push the car's to their limits.

The only thing that kept me watching during the dominant Schumacher years was watching him push. Especially on tracks like Monaco and Canada where the walls allowed a graphic demonstration on how close to the limit he was through the fast corners. There was some enjoyment to be had watching him stretch out a 30s lead before the first pitstops.

It led to some mistakes too. At the moment the drivers are so far below the limit it's practically impossible for them to make mistakes. For this reason you very rarely see a driver spin out during a race these days.
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