2017 Tyres revealed

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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by Gridlock » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:42 pm

It does sound like someone's struggling to hit the old number, doesn't it. But yeah let's pretend we forgot about the tyres when setting the regs :roll:
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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by Dazed1 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:30 pm

Gridlock wrote:It does sound like someone's struggling to hit the old number, doesn't it. But yeah let's pretend we forgot about the tyres when setting the regs :roll:
When I look at those wide tires mounted on rims my back hurts a little, but then I am an old man. How much do the rears weigh each?

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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by Big Mangalhit » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:56 pm

According to that article they weight 3kg. Hardly any effort to lift i guess

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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by roon » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:11 pm

Big Mangalhit wrote:According to that article they weight 3kg. Hardly any effort to lift i guess
Yeah, but there's like 40 pounds of air in them, too.

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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by Peter1919 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:08 pm

Big Mangalhit wrote:According to that article they weight 3kg. Hardly any effort to lift i guess
That 's 3kg extra for the rears over last year or 1.5kg on top of the weight of last year tyre

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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by godlameroso » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:29 pm

The entire wheel tyre assembly of the rear tires probably weighs 24kg each. The wheels themselves are light, the tires are not, and probably make up the bulk of the weight.

https://i.imgur.com/dI8QWLH.gifv
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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by Big Mangalhit » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:37 am

Peter1919 wrote:
Big Mangalhit wrote:According to that article they weight 3kg. Hardly any effort to lift i guess
That 's 3kg extra for the rears over last year or 1.5kg on top of the weight of last year tyre
Damn I'm an idiot. If 24kg are the right weight then the back wheel tyre guys need to bulk up this winter. Maybe it also helps to have a counter weight on the back when changing the tyres.

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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by FrukostScones » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:42 pm

apparently VET crashed testing 2017 WET tyres :mrgreen:

http://autosprint.corrieredellosport.it ... okieAccept

crashed against guard rail, and had to be retrieved by a tractor to the box.

https://twitter.com/Gianludale27/status ... wsrc%5Etfw
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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by PlatinumZealot » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:02 pm

Yeah. That set was probably last year's compound lol
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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by PhillipM » Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:31 pm

I'd be amazed if the rear wheels and tyres weighed 24kg. I'd expect half of that, even with this years heavier tyres.

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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by godlameroso » Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:32 am

You're completely right, I wish I could blame it on dyslexia, but yes I got kg confused with lbs.
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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by strad » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:03 am

unless something drastic has changed most of the weight is the rims,, the tire could be wadded up in your hands.. didn't weigh squat.
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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by namao » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:01 pm

Hembery (14 February 2017): "Will be less degradation, less wear. Also, will be less alternatives in strategies. The difference between compounds is going to be less than a second"

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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by dmjunqueira » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:12 pm

namao wrote:Hembery (14 February 2017): "Will be less degradation, less wear. Also, will be less alternatives in strategies. The difference between compounds is going to be less than a second"
I'm really trying to be optimistic about this new set of rules and the "spectacle" they might provide...But every time they talk about it, it seem's they are getting rid of all characteristics from the previous rules that led to some good races.

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Re: 2017 Tyres revealed

Post by Tim.Wright » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:45 pm

You can't have it all. These characteristics came at the expense of having the drivers being able to push the cars and that in turn had a lot of knock on effects which rendered the whole show pretty boring.

Perhaps there will be less variation due to strategy but at least you will be able to watch epic stints with drivers being able to push the car's to their limits.

The only thing that kept me watching during the dominant Schumacher years was watching him push. Especially on tracks like Monaco and Canada where the walls allowed a graphic demonstration on how close to the limit he was through the fast corners. There was some enjoyment to be had watching him stretch out a 30s lead before the first pitstops.

It led to some mistakes too. At the moment the drivers are so far below the limit it's practically impossible for them to make mistakes. For this reason you very rarely see a driver spin out during a race these days.
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