2022 Aero Thread

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JordanMugen wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:58 pm
jjn9128 wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:50 pm
It’s weird. Like trying to be futuristic by copying a 95/96 champ car. Then sticking on hubcaps off a 1950s American pickup.
Is there a reason for the wheel covers to be like that, instead of completely flat? :?:

The very stubby and wide nose is also curious. Will the real cars retain the narrow noses which they currently have? The other FIA concept shows the front wing main flap extending ahead of the nose ala FW14B, which might be another possibility? :?:

I hadn't realised how far off the ground the front wing is. The mock-up car shows a strange downards slope to the front wing from the nose, in reality will the main element of the real front wings immediately curve down rather aggressively much like the Tyrrell 019 -- provided that is permitted?

https://i.imgur.com/f5lG73R.png
The front wing box forces an anhedral from the nose to the tip. I’ve posted enough pictures of the regulation boxes. Plus I’m not on my computer. The Tyrrell 018/Jordan 191 concept wouldn’t be possible.
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This guy called, he want's his nose back :lol:
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Holm86 wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:06 pm
This guy called, he want's his nose back :lol:
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/08b155d5 ... 631531f690
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JordanMugen wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:58 pm
jjn9128 wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:50 pm
It’s weird. Like trying to be futuristic by copying a 95/96 champ car. Then sticking on hubcaps off a 1950s American pickup.
Is there a reason for the wheel covers to be like that, instead of completely flat? :?:

The very stubby and wide nose is also curious. Will the real cars retain the narrow noses which they currently have? The other FIA concept shows the front wing main flap extending ahead of the nose ala FW14B, which might be another possibility? :?:

I hadn't realised how far off the ground the front wing is. The mock-up car shows a strange downards slope to the front wing from the nose, in reality will the main element of the real front wings immediately curve down rather aggressively much like the Tyrrell 019 -- provided that is permitted?

https://i.imgur.com/f5lG73R.png
This is easily the worst looking f1 car ever. What in the world is with that nose?. Looks like a wider version of IndyCar. Terrible sight. Besides that, hopefully the aero is good.
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jjn9128 wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:44 pm
2pm uk time (in 15 minutes) on f1 YouTube channel.
Can't find anything on their YouTube channel. Do you have a link?

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I was wrong it’s at 3pm uk time. YouTube said 2pm which confused me.

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I wonder how much leeway the teams will get for playing with details. For example, the curved device on the outside of the front wing endplate and the exact size and positioning of the front wing slot gaps that wrap around under the endplate will be quite useful for tuning the aero around the front tyre and its wake.

Other than the weird wheel "hub caps", it appears to be basically the car that was revealed two years ago but with a coat of paint thrown over it. So much for a big "reveal". :roll:
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Doesn't look futuristic. Side by side with a car from 2007/8 they all look from last century. Only the cars from 2014 have an unglier nose than this one. The front and rear wing look a bit like an evolution from the Superleague Formula... what a waste of time this was.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:16 pm
I wonder how much leeway the teams will get for playing with details. For example, the curved device on the outside of the front wing endplate and the exact size and positioning of the front wing slot gaps that wrap around under the endplate will be quite useful for tuning the aero around the front tyre and its wake.

Other than the weird wheel "hub caps", it appears to be basically the car that was revealed two years ago but with a coat of paint thrown over it. So much for a big "reveal". :roll:
Pretty much exactly that car. Looks like they’ve reprofiled the deflectors above the front wheels. The front and rear wings and nose are slightly different. There will also be the “mini splitter” on the front of the boat-keel under the driver.

There’s not a huge amount of leeway for being super creative imho. The curved thing on the FWEP is called the “diveplane” it has to be at least 10mm thick with a 5mm radius. Maximum is 12mm thick. It has to block a surface when viewed from above. It has to have positive camber with the rest edge a certain distance above the front... etc
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politburo wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:10 pm
This is easily the worst looking f1 car ever. What in the world is with that nose?. Looks like a wider version of IndyCar. Terrible sight. Besides that, hopefully the aero is good.
Sir has a short memory:
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jjn9128 wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:22 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:16 pm
I wonder how much leeway the teams will get for playing with details. For example, the curved device on the outside of the front wing endplate and the exact size and positioning of the front wing slot gaps that wrap around under the endplate will be quite useful for tuning the aero around the front tyre and its wake.

Other than the weird wheel "hub caps", it appears to be basically the car that was revealed two years ago but with a coat of paint thrown over it. So much for a big "reveal". :roll:
Pretty much exactly that car. Looks like they’ve reprofiled the deflectors above the front wheels. The front and rear wings and nose are slightly different. There will also be the “mini splitter” on the front of the boat-keel under the driver.

There’s not a huge amount of leeway for being super creative imho. The curved thing on the FWEP is called the “diveplane” it has to be at least 10mm thick with a 5mm radius. Maximum is 12mm thick. It has to block a surface when viewed from above. It has to have positive camber with the rest edge a certain distance above the front... etc
So are we effectively going to be watching a spec series just with a choice of drive train allowed?
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In the beginning they were talking about putting LEDs on the hubcaps to show some basic information, i fear they still want to continue with this bs and this is what the hubcaps represent...

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:28 pm
So are we effectively going to be watching a spec series just with a choice of drive train allowed?
Technically no. But there’s a lot of detail which will keep cars verrry similar. Main differences will be invisible to most of us.
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JordanMugen wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:58 pm
jjn9128 wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:50 pm
It’s weird. Like trying to be futuristic by copying a 95/96 champ car. Then sticking on hubcaps off a 1950s American pickup.
Is there a reason for the wheel covers to be like that, instead of completely flat? :?:

The very stubby and wide nose is also curious. Will the real cars retain the narrow noses which they currently have? The other FIA concept shows the front wing main flap extending ahead of the nose ala FW14B, which might be another possibility? :?:

I hadn't realised how far off the ground the front wing is. The mock-up car shows a strange downards slope to the front wing from the nose, in reality will the main element of the real front wings immediately curve down rather aggressively much like the Tyrrell 019 -- provided that is permitted?

https://i.imgur.com/f5lG73R.png
What older mockups/renders are you referring to? the ones I know arent very different from this 1/1 mockup. the latter has minor changes compared to them. Actually the Memento one features more changes and looks more up-to-date.

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Evolution spot the difference.
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