2022 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 20 - 22

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silver
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ringo wrote:
26 May 2022, 02:45
Just to put things into perspective..
What would the points standing be if Checo rightfully won that race? 11 points!! after 6 rounds.

I called it at the beginning of the season, but Checo has a good chance of being champion, if even by Max having bad luck and reliability issues.

Checo is very much in this championship fight. And it is sad that he is in a very strong position to challenge for it, yet he is not allowed to. There are no statistics this year so far that deems Checo unfit to be champion; if even by luck or consistency.
Just those ringo things. :D

In Bahrain, Leclerc and Verstappen dumped their team mates behind and went after each other. Verstappen pulled moves on Leclerc, Perez none.
In Saudi, after SC, Verstappen was behind Leclerc and Perez was behind Sainz. Exact same situation for both. Verstappen pulled a move and won the race and Perez couldn't pull a move on Sainz.
Imola was same. Miami was same. To be a championship contender a driver should have proven cases of competency and Perez has none. Where is the objectivity in your analysis except the pathological dislike for Verstappen? On a day when Verstappen had car issues, Leclerc was out of race and Sainz having a horrible day, Perez was lucky to lead. Is that what you call Perez is fit for being a champion? There's isn't a single drive so far from Perez which is worthy of a championship contender, just like Sainz.

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ringo
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So you are saying the same Checo that overtook George Russel so decisively has no competence?
Interesting..
Ever heard of Keke Rosberg?
He is a world champion.

Someone incompentent has to be forced to step aside for the competent one to get in front and would have been only 11 points behind despite being the slower driver and in most cases getting second hand treatment.
For Sure!!

sosic2121
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How about Russell pushing Max in T3? Shouldn't that be penalised by new rules? What would have happened if there was a gravel trap instead of tarmac(like RB ring T4)?

Spoutnik
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sosic2121 wrote:
26 May 2022, 10:00
How about Russell pushing Max in T3? Shouldn't that be penalised by new rules? What would have happened if there was a gravel trap instead of tarmac(like RB ring T4)?
Nothing has changed. Max wasn't penalized for way worse maneuver, idk why Russell who left "just" a car width should be penalized

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Wouter
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sosic2121 wrote:
26 May 2022, 10:00
How about Russell pushing Max in T3? Shouldn't that be penalised by new rules? What would have happened if there was a gravel trap instead of tarmac(like RB ring T4)?
Max: "I'm okay with it."

The Power of Dreams!

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chrisc90
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He wasn’t keen to answer the cars width question at the start….

‘Ahhh, Yeah…. Luckily nothing happened’

Probably a bit less than a cars width for max in reality, but he’s fortunate there was no damage

sosic2121
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Spoutnik wrote:
26 May 2022, 10:03
sosic2121 wrote:
26 May 2022, 10:00
How about Russell pushing Max in T3? Shouldn't that be penalised by new rules? What would have happened if there was a gravel trap instead of tarmac(like RB ring T4)?
Nothing has changed. Max wasn't penalized for way worse maneuver, idk why Russell who left "just" a car width should be penalized
I'm not pro max here(ferrari fan).
Russell pushed him off, he left him a half car width.
Is this allowed or not? I thought there were some new rules about racing...

cplchanb
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sosic2121 wrote:
26 May 2022, 22:34
Spoutnik wrote:
26 May 2022, 10:03
sosic2121 wrote:
26 May 2022, 10:00
How about Russell pushing Max in T3? Shouldn't that be penalised by new rules? What would have happened if there was a gravel trap instead of tarmac(like RB ring T4)?
Nothing has changed. Max wasn't penalized for way worse maneuver, idk why Russell who left "just" a car width should be penalized
I'm not pro max here(ferrari fan).
Russell pushed him off, he left him a half car width.
Is this allowed or not? I thought there were some new rules about racing...
yes that is allowed. russ was just taking the normal racing line. this was common before drivers started to whine about every single defensive move that hurt their feelings.

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sosic2121 wrote:
26 May 2022, 10:00
How about Russell pushing Max in T3? Shouldn't that be penalised by new rules? What would have happened if there was a gravel trap instead of tarmac(like RB ring T4)?
Tbf max had space closer to george that he didnt use

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ringo wrote:
26 May 2022, 08:05
So you are saying the same Checo that overtook George Russel so decisively has no competence?
Interesting..
Ever heard of Keke Rosberg?
He is a world champion.

Someone incompentent has to be forced to step aside for the competent one to get in front and would have been only 11 points behind despite being the slower driver and in most cases getting second hand treatment.
Checo overtook Russel with fresher tyres, He couldn’t overtake Russel first 6 laps even with DRS. Max got closer to overtaking with a malfunctioning DRS.
The ones with the least to say always want to be heard the most…

silver
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ringo wrote:
26 May 2022, 08:05
So you are saying the same Checo that overtook George Russel so decisively has no competence?
Interesting..
Ever heard of Keke Rosberg?
He is a world champion.

Someone incompentent has to be forced to step aside for the competent one to get in front and would have been only 11 points behind despite being the slower driver and in most cases getting second hand treatment.
Decisively?
Perez was behind Russell for 12 laps at the first stint and couldn't overtake.
Then Russell went into pits. Perez approached Verstappen after his pit stop while Verstappen was struggling to overtake Russell and Ver boxed on lap 28. At that point, Perez was 1.7 seconds behind Russell. He then completed the move on lap 31. Immediately, he was 1.5 seconds quicker on that very lap. In a matter of 3 laps, the gaps was over 5 seconds. That was the pace difference between the cars.

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