If hollus could take on board the concerns expressed by many members (yes, myself included)
regarding his 'concrete' thought processes - which cruel discourse - via his overt aversion to
any self-perceived 'piquancy' - & relax/unwind/be cool/chill/, rather than present as a 'grumpy
old bastard' who never left a 1950's 'wound up tight' - mindset behind, it would be a 'happy' thing,
for this forum...
"Well, we knocked the bastard off!"
Ed Hilary on being 1st to top Mt Everest,
(& 1st to do a surface traverse across Antarctica,
in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).