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etusch wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 18:31
is it banned in any way or just combusting it with spark plug in exhoust?
In any way. Heat of the exhaust made it combust by the way

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injecting fuel at the exhaust stroke.

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Does anyone expect Red Bull to run 2023 floor at some point this season? Will they run the car in Abu Dhabi, atleast one car with 2023 spec and then use that for young drivers test?

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etusch wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 18:43
injecting fuel at the exhaust stroke.
Probably, as long as it's in the combustion chamber its ok. Smart move by Honda to keep investing in this sort of energy recovery after the 2020 TD banned their way of doing it at that time. They somehow managed to change it to have legal extra ERS recovery/deployment over the competition. They were already a bit better on ERS in qualy than Merc early last year. But Merc seems to have lost something going from late last year to this year.

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mendis wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 19:48
Does anyone expect Red Bull to run 2023 floor at some point this season? Will they run the car in Abu Dhabi, atleast one car with 2023 spec and then use that for young drivers test?
It might not be possible depending on the chassis architecture. It's not only a raised floor edge but some change in the diffuser area which might require gearbox design changes.

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Has anyone discussed the rumour surrounding RB exceeding the 2021 budget cap? Two teams exceeded last years cap, apparently RB by 5m dollars, and Aston Martin by a lesser degree.

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DGP123 wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 10:33
Has anyone discussed the rumour surrounding RB exceeding the 2021 budget cap? Two teams exceeded last years cap, apparently RB by 5m dollars, and Aston Martin by a lesser degree.
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Yes, in the FIA thread. The rumor says RBR spent 4 million to much.

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So, the teams that did this and stayed below 5% will get a fine. I wonder why not every team did this on purpose? Seems like a no brainer to me.

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gandharva wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 11:45
So, the teams that did this and stayed below 5% will get a fine. I wonder why not every team did this on purpose? Seems like a no brainer to me.
I guess some want to see what the punishment would be, letting others test the water, before doing it themselves?

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Could be. But in the end, it's business, and being ahead of the curve, especially when new regulations kick in, is well worth a fine.

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Seems like a no-brainer to me as well, but the reason I think Redbull is over the budget by 4m is that they didn't want Silverstone and Hungary crashes to affect their development for 2022.
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Of course they were above the limit. They had two chassis destroyed by Mercedes, and now they complain about RB. Such hypocrisy with that team....

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My quick and dirty transcript on Christian Horner's view on Red Bull Racing's 2021 budget submission, it may be a little inaccurate! :)

Simon Lazenby (looking dour): Been a bit of noise up and down the paddock about the forensic accountants. Aware of any breaches?

Christian Horner (looking smug): Certainly not aware of any (breaches). Accounts were all submitted back in March, they are rightly following that process. Mid next week is when they will declare their results. Our submission was below the cap. It's down to the FIA to follow their process.

Martin Brundle: And the new regulations?

Christian Horner: Inevitably, it's a brand new set of regulations with new components and costing. We're working with the FIA on that. I've heard the rumours of major breaches. I'm certainly not aware of that.

Naomi Schiff: Clarifications?

Christian Horner: Clarifications are coming even after the submissions were made. It's an immature process but the FIA have been doing the best they can.

Simon Lazenby: Confident you are under the cap?

Christian Horner: We are very confident in our submission.


dxpetrov wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 12:01
Of course they were above the limit.
Horner notes the budget costing submitted was within the cap, the question would be if the FIA's forensic accountants agree with the RBR accounts. :)