2022 Oracle | Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Hmmm, then what are the 6 ATP periods a year for?

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Alexf1 wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:22 pm
Hmmm, then what are the 6 ATP periods a year for?
As per FIA, these are periodic intervals for 'evaluation of the limits', which I suppose means, to measure the utilisation of the allowed dispension. How they evaluate isn't mentioned anywhere. Maybe the teams know.

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caddy wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:09 pm
Alexf1 wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:49 pm
chrisc90 wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:28 pm


Probably since the FIA first told them they were in breach. We haven’t had any updates since Singapore
No. Penalty came into effect on wednesday Oct 26th (date of agreement with FIA)

https://the-race.com/formula-1/what-red ... itll-hurt/

"Of note is the fact that Red Bull’s limitation is valid for a period of 12 months from the date of execution of the Accepted Breach Agreement.

The ABA was entered into on Wednesday, October 26. That means that Red Bull’s new limit kicks in immediately and will be valid for whatever development work it completes in the final part of 2022."

This is why I'm wondering how far along a team usually is around end of October with aero of next years car. Maybe it was in Red Bulls interest to drag the process a bit in order to have most of the basic 2023 aero completed by that time.
It wouldn't matter when the penalty kicked in. It would anyway hurt for a 12 month period. Whether RB spend all their allocated WT on air time within one month or twelve, it's up to them. There is no weekly or monthly allocations. So they can continue what they are doing and then adjust the spend a little more wisely.

It might cost them a few upgrades down the season in 2023 or for the start of 2024 challenger, RB20, depending upon where they want to take a bit of hit. I don't think it would cost them up front in 2023 challenger, RB19. If they can compromise on late season RB19 upgrades, then they can do the usual work for RB20.
I believe each team has a cap depending on finishing position per week on hours in the wind tunnel. you cant spend 200+ hours in the wind tunnel in the first month if you finished first. first gets like 20 - 30 hours, 10th gets 45 - 50 hours per week

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Honor to whom honor is due! 🏎

Today the presentation of the National Sports Award 2022 took place, where @SCHecoPerez was recognized for his sports achievements.
On his behalf, there was a person he completely trusted, @1AntonioPerez
This is the message he sends us.



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The Power of Honda!

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Is there a launch date for the RB19?

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I'm not really expecting it to hinder Red Bull too much since they have pretty much got the concept right and only have to get weight out of the RB19 along with evolving aero improvements. Ferrari have to figure out how to improve reliability and make there concept work without a flexing floor. Mercedes still have to solve their porpoising issues because they were still having the issues in Abu Dhabi and really this is going to require some major design changes and a lot of WT time. As for the rest of the grid you can bet that they will look like RB18 clones with maybe the Haas continuing down the Ferrari path.

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As regards FERRARI reliability problems. Two days ago it was reported that they have solved their reliability problems traced to melting spark plugs at consistent use of maximum power resulting in destroyed ICE.

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There is an interview with Newey on AMuS in German.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... 3-konzept/

Some sentences translated:

No team has the best solution

For the fact that a Ferrari with completely different sidepods was practically as fast as the Red Bull, Newey has a surprising answer ready:
"That means that none of us is absolutely right and there has to be something better. You can things like wings or sidepods never isolate . Everything only works as a package. A Ferrari sidepod will not fit our underbody and vice versa. There is always an interaction between these elements."

"We will continue to develop our concept because we know it best. But I don't dare to say whether our way is the best.
It's quite possible that someone else will turn the corner with a better idea."

The problem with forecasts is that no one knows the destination. "None of us yet know where we will end up when developing our own concepts. Perhaps another one has much greater development potential that is still lagging behind today."
Newey also does not want to rule out that someone will find a solution that no one has on their radar at the moment.
"Think of the double diffuser. That loophole in the transition from floor to step was always there. It just wasn't discovered."
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From an German interview by Red Bull Motorsport Advisor Dr. Helmut Marko to SPEEDWEEK.com.

https://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/ ... immer.html

Red Bull Racing has received a fine of around seven million euros from the FIA, the world autosport association, for exceeding the cost cap. In addition, the wind tunnel time has been reduced by ten percent.

dr Marko says: “We accepted this penalty because we wanted to avoid a possible year-long legal dispute.
But I agree with the assessment of Red Bull Racing team boss Christian Horner, who spoke of a draconian penalty and estimates that we will lose two to five tenths of a second per lap. In order to compensate for this disadvantage, we have to work even more efficiently.”
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About AlphaTauri

“There is a general commitment from both shareholders (Red Bull heir Mark Mateschitz and the Thai family Yoovidhya, ed.)
that from a marketing standpoint, Formula 1 is the strongest tool that is not being questioned.
According to the shareholders, there is no plan to sell AlphaTauri.
They want to continue what Didi Mateschitz created as a junior team."
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Good news for the team. Also, if that is the case, Honda will almost certainly have either partner up with RBPT or they will need to start up a new team from scratch. Can’t see who Honda could have bought except for AT.

There is a lot of competition. Audi took Sauber. Williams look like they are going with another VAG brand. It seems like it’s impossible for Honda to buy their way back in as a full team. If you are Red Bull, you might also want to avoid a direct confrontation against a Honda factory team as well….meaning they won’t sell AT to Honda.

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AR3-GP wrote:
Fri Dec 02, 2022 12:12 am
https://www.autosport.com/f1/video/keep ... utetv=true

Amusing.
Thats quality. Such a laugh together.
No Mikey Noo! No! Nooo Mikey! That was sooo not riiight!!

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https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/10180 ... otogp-test

Looks like RedBull spreading some of their resources around.

“ In making the transition from F1 to MotoGP, the Red Bull aerodynamicists will need to master the effects of extreme lean angles in the corners and ride-height devices that lower the rear of the bike on the straight.”

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Chief Strategy Engineer Hannah Schmitz won the Engineer of the Year Award. The jury was impressed by her way of making decisions under pressure.


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Well done Hannah, the strategy team this season on point.