McLaren MCL60

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Pany wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:13 am
Even more redbull replica. Amazing the cant extract decent performance with nearly identical car
Why? This formula is mainly about the underbody ground effects, the floor performance, how you seal it and stop it from stalling at different speeds/ride heights is the key to ultimate pace.

That's a lot harder to copy and study, as it's carefully guarded and can't be seen when the car is running. Their car could look the same above the floor as the Red Bull and have way less performance from the floor and venturi.

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Changes for round 2 - Saudi Arabia

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Diffuser/rear floor change

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Pany wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:13 am
Even more redbull replica. Amazing the cant extract decent performance with nearly identical car

That means Floor & Suspension are Not Good... Lets see after Baku...

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Substantial update to the diffuser geometry

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From this angle it is a stunning car, the lighting really demonstrates the detail.

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Why do these shapes look so different? The second picture from practise shows that area to rise above the level of the floor like a knuckle, the first from Thursday is quite different. On the picture from the side it looks the the area has been designed to be easily replaced, a modular part. On both picturs that area looks in different condition to the floor around it.

This is the area some thought was a hole from looking at some of the the Feb test pictures.

Looks like you can see the reinforcing of the wheel brow here too.

Thursday:
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Friday Practise:
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mwillems wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:18 am
Why do these shapes look so different? The second picture from practise shows that area to rise above the level of the floor like a knuckle, the first from Thursday is quite different. On the picture from the side it looks the the area has been designed to be easily replaced, a modular part. On both picturs that area looks in different condition to the floor around it.

This is the area some thought was a hole from looking at some of the the Feb test pictures.

Looks like you can see the reinforcing of the wheel brow here too.

Thursday:
https://i.ibb.co/RvXwQdx/Pic2.png

Friday Practise:
https://i.ibb.co/mTcccxM/Pic1.png
Those covers are over the lower side crash structures.
The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks.

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djos wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:42 am
mwillems wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:18 am
Why do these shapes look so different? The second picture from practise shows that area to rise above the level of the floor like a knuckle, the first from Thursday is quite different. On the picture from the side it looks the the area has been designed to be easily replaced, a modular part. On both picturs that area looks in different condition to the floor around it.

This is the area some thought was a hole from looking at some of the the Feb test pictures.

Looks like you can see the reinforcing of the wheel brow here too.

Thursday:
https://i.ibb.co/RvXwQdx/Pic2.png

Friday Practise:
https://i.ibb.co/mTcccxM/Pic1.png
Those covers are over the lower side crash structures.
But why the difference between the pics, that surely isn't a trick of the light?
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mwillems wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:44 am
djos wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:42 am
mwillems wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:18 am
Why do these shapes look so different? The second picture from practise shows that area to rise above the level of the floor like a knuckle, the first from Thursday is quite different. On the picture from the side it looks the the area has been designed to be easily replaced, a modular part. On both picturs that area looks in different condition to the floor around it.

This is the area some thought was a hole from looking at some of the the Feb test pictures.

Looks like you can see the reinforcing of the wheel brow here too.

Thursday:
https://i.ibb.co/RvXwQdx/Pic2.png

Friday Practise:
https://i.ibb.co/mTcccxM/Pic1.png
Those covers are over the lower side crash structures.
But why the difference between the pics, that surely isn't a trick of the light?
I think they just stand out due to the difference in finish. The covers appear to have a smoother finish and are likely just a thinner carbon. To me I can’t see any real change from the last race.
The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks.

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djos wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:49 am
mwillems wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:44 am
djos wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:42 am


Those covers are over the lower side crash structures.
But why the difference between the pics, that surely isn't a trick of the light?
I think they just stand out due to the difference in finish. The covers appear to have a smoother finish and are likely just a thinner carbon. To me I can’t see any real change from the last race.
You may be right, it just looks so different between the two, not even close to the same.
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mwillems wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:07 pm
djos wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:49 am
mwillems wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:44 am


But why the difference between the pics, that surely isn't a trick of the light?
I think they just stand out due to the difference in finish. The covers appear to have a smoother finish and are likely just a thinner carbon. To me I can’t see any real change from the last race.
You may be right, it just looks so different between the two, not even close to the same.
Agreed, it’s a very big contrast in surface finish. It’s almost like they sanded off the lacquer from the main floor section.
The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks.