But, if that's the case, once said driver makes the pass shouldn't he be expected to pull away from the passed driver at close to 2 secs a lap? As we know that is never the case unless there's a massive tyre advantage.Rinde wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:56 amA 2 seconds delta looks extremely exaggerated. However, if you consider the sequence of corners and lack of long straights then it becomes clear why overtaking is hard. Most overtakes happened in drs zones only after a traction deficit out of corners or a send into unlikely corners. The traction deficit is a result of shot tyres which when collated over a lap, ie tentative entries into corners and lack of grip when exiting, the 2 seconds delta makes sense.
But, this never happens on other circuits as well, and as you know many overtakes happen with a driver on the charge, trying to overtake another car after he has made the pass. I think the deltas given are incorrect and overstated.
I think the delta mentioned is a tyre grip delta - you need enough tyre that you could, on a flyer, be 2 seconds faster. Not that you will automatically pull away at 2 seconds/lap. And that delta is really to give a decent excess of braking grip and traction over your "target".Astro85 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:39 amYou often hear claims in F1 that you think maybe is not entirely correct.
One for me is the delta needed to make a pass, it was said that to pass around Singapore you need a 2 second delta. I don't believe this to be true, after certain cars yesterday made a pass they didn't pull away from the passed party at anything close to 2 seconds a lap, this is also the case at other circuits. Where does this "myth" come from?
Yeah, same here. Silly myth, that one.
The rules are such now that they can not develop new technologies without contravening the regs.