That is pretty insane ..organic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:22 pmnot accounting for DNFs
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That is pretty insane ..organic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:22 pmnot accounting for DNFs
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Leclerc also did it.AR3-GP wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:10 pmWell, there's a chance that the sprint can go like Brazil where Max seemed to have better deg but I'm not sure about anything. They are so slow and it's not like the laps had mistakes or wide moments. As you said, he set identical laps on the first and 2nd runs. He was the only driver who went full throttle in T14. There was nothing left in this car.Cs98 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:05 pmI think the car looks pretty good onboard, the laps were spotless and there's no visual problems. It's just not quite fast enough in the long medium speed corners. Two identical back to back lap times is also a promising sign for deg. It'll be interesting to see the race pace, that's far more important.Juzh wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:54 pmCar is good, the best even, in S3 which is a bunch of super fast corners, but just loses massive time in anything below 200 kmh. They need to fix this for next year or it will be more of the same. Mclaren, ferrari and merc have proven outright downforce is not the most important, but rather just a bonus.
Strangely car is also fastest in speed trap, though I doubt it will do them much good.
He doesn't steal many points from Verstappen, does he?organic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:22 pmnot accounting for DNFs
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Do folks suppose that Wache's ideas (and problem solving at circuit) are as meritorious as a certain departed Chief Technical Officer?
Max was 3 tenths back from pole in the Brazilian sprint qualifying. Then he was probably the fastest in the sprint race. Max is again 3 tenths down in the sprint qualy but perhaps it will go better in race conditions. This was a "feature" of the RB19.JordanMugen wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:39 amWhy is the Red Bull car so slow in Qatar? The circuit doesn't have bumps/kerbs or slow corners that be often be problematic for the RB20, yet the car is slow anyway?
Great analysis. They should just use this two races as a test session for 2025. Who cares if something fails, WDC is done, WCC also for us.Farnborough wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:12 pmSomething FV said and Norris indicated that his tires were finished (I think was his description) that as track grip came up then front struggled more.
Overall suggests that rear grip on these cars is gaining more than front as track evolves, to make absolute choice of balance just that little more of a challenge for each of them.
McL,looks good on 1 lap pace, we'll see a little more of the picture in sprint race, and if each chassis evolves in a positive or negative direction.
That Merc still looks to me to have attributes that can upset the others though
It's good to see such close and involved competing from them all.
Sounds like there will maybe a decent review of the settings for RB after this bit of racing. As of this moment though, this one doesn't immediately look a match for the three directly competing teams cars. MV has certainly got his work cut out here.
More Alb/Alo/Hul etc .. the people that really matterPaa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:11 amHe doesn't steal many points from Verstappen, does he?organic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 9:22 pmnot accounting for DNFs
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I agree. Especially that track temp is in the 20s. However, whilst LasVegas was colder and had fewer tyre slip zones that kept the 'perfect heat' in the merc's tyres (literally no 'deg'), with minP at 28/26 psi ; Qatar, with a less cold but high tyre slip track and lower minP at 26/22.5 psi, it will interesting to see what 'deg' is exhibited by Mercedes. Tyres are at a knife edge in this ultra ride height sensitive ground effect era, that we can see topsy turvy tyre life one track to the next for the same team.Farnborough wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 12:12 pmThat Merc still looks to me to have attributes that can upset the others though
As I said, anything below 200 kmh and RB20 becomes slow, T16 absurdly so. It's a trait of the car, for whatever reason, which must be eradicated.venkyhere wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:01 am- however, the momentum gain from S3 can't be translated to a great pit-straight launch, as the entire 0.25s is terribly lost (and the effective overall loss staying at 0.3s) at the final corner, T16. It still is a long corner, but I am not sure why he is losing time like he lost in T6-T7. It's not a 'quick rotation' corner, it's still medium-high speed. Perhaps the S tyres are eaten by now.