Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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Almost 12 years have pasted since the last F1 car on slick tyres , the championship winner Williams FW19 , designed by Newey . The car achieved 123 points , 11 pole positions , 9 fastest laps , 8 wins and both the constructor and driver’s championships . The RB5 may not be as successful as the FW19 ( until now ) but its potential and speed is beyond doubt .It would not make much sense a direct comparison between the two cars if the regulations would not have changed but due to 2009 aero cutting such a comparison can lead to some useful conclusions about the evolution rate in Formula 1.
The main and most striking differences between the RB5 and the FW19 due to the different F1 regulations are
- The wider front wing
- The taller and lesser in width rear wing
- The standard V8 frozen engine , which offers a slimmer rear zone and smaller cooling radiators


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The nose in RB5 was chosen by Adrian Newey to be high and slim , in order to disturb in a lesser way the airflow to the front wing . A similar approach was chosen by Newey for the FW19 .Still looking at the front zone it is amazing to observe the overall volume of the nose cone , in FW19 it was much much larger able to accommodate the braking and suspension system while the RB5 has a more slimmer and elegant nose cone as the internal systems were radically decreased in size . Furthermore the RB5 has a distinctive raised u-shaped bodywork at the front of the chassis while the FW19 had only small pimples which housed the front suspension’s elements .



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There is nothing to compare about the steering wheels . Only 12 years time passed between the two cars but for steering wheels it seems to be a century !



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The sidepods in RB5 are far more sculpted on their bottoms and much slimmer towards the rear.



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The RB5 also has a pull rod rear suspension system in contrast to FW19’s push rod rear suspension system .Moreover the RB5 has a low periscope exhaust pipe system but the FW19's exhausts pipes were placed between the rear suspension's wishbones .
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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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Also note the difference in the driveshaft angles.

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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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Bar555: You wrote "The RB5 may not be as successful as the FW31 ( until now ) but" I think you mean the FW19 :)

Very nice comparison otherwise.
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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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roost89 wrote:Bar555: You wrote "The RB5 may not be as successful as the FW31 ( until now ) but" I think you mean the FW19 :)

Very nice comparison otherwise.

error fixed , thanks
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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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bar555, you always impress with your posts and detailed pics

as always, nice work buddy

hats off to you =D>

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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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Very nicely done :)
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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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ENGINE
Another fact that links the two cars is the Renault engine

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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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Are those the stats for the RB4 or should the tables say RB5?
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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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Stats are for RB5 , another mistake of mine , sorry . I will post the corrected ones later this day
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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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Great work bar555.

In total there was 5 FW19s built, FW19-01 & FW19-02 raced the first 3 rounds of the 97 season, the FW19-04 and FW19-05 raced the rest of the season with the FW19-03 being used as the car for testing, the 01 & 02 chassis were used as T cars for the T cars after round 3.

Expect mail soon from me as i have a few updates to my charts, and a few i mean a small mountain of chassis data as well.

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ESPImperium wrote:Great work bar555.

In total there was 5 FW19s built, FW19-01 & FW19-02 raced the first 3 rounds of the 97 season, the FW19-04 and FW19-05 raced the rest of the season with the FW19-03 being used as the car for testing, the 01 & 02 chassis were used as T cars for the T cars after round 3.

Expect mail soon from me as i have a few updates to my charts, and a few i mean a small mountain of chassis data as well.

interesting info , cann't wait for the mail
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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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The FW19 is also some 20cm wider if I remember the rule changes correctly? What stupid changes they were back in 1998!

What mostly to me is the difference with older cars is the simplicity of the aerodynamics compared to the complexity that peaked in 2008, but even 2009 cars have complex parts compared to old ones.

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Re: Comparison between the Red Bull RB5 and the Williams FW19

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I think in someway the 2009 car was even more complex than 2008 cars in the areas that are allowed. front end plate, the brake duct "box" area, diffuser....etc