2016 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, 16-18 September

[lio007]

Haven't seen the race...what happened to VES? 71 seconds behind ROS?

[AMG.Tzan]

Classic Rosberg luck...no brake or tire problems...just one more lap and maybe we could have got a pass from Dani! There's no explanation to Rosberg's form this year! His luck is just unbelievable...it's got to be his year!

Dude, are you drunk or high?

No thankfully i am ok man...Rosberg was brilliant! But at last...i wanna see some drama like Austria...last lap pass! Imagine if Rosberg's tires gave a bit on the last 5 laps and Dani was on him with 2-3 to go! Imagine the fight...! That's what i am talking about! Oh and thankfully Verstappen came up behind Kyvat at some stage in the race! That was a nice fight i have to say!

[rscsr]

Haven't seen the race...what happened to VES? 71 seconds behind ROS?

bad start, and then was in traffic pretty much the whole time

[lio007]

Haven't seen the race...what happened to VES? 71 seconds behind ROS?

bad start, and then was in traffic pretty much the whole time

OK, thanks! At least a good result for RIC and more points for RB than Ferrari in WCC.

[Scuderia1967]

Haven't seen the race...what happened to VES? 71 seconds behind ROS?

bad start, and then was in traffic pretty much the whole time

An understatement, if ever there was one. On the other side of Red Bull's garage, Ricciardo (who, unlike Max, was using the old Renault PU) almost won the race

[basti313]

Haven't seen the race...what happened to VES? 71 seconds behind ROS?

bad start, and then was in traffic pretty much the whole time

An understatement, if ever there was one. On the other side of Red Bull's garage, Ricciardo (who, unlike Max, was using the old Renault PU) almost won the race

Yes, he also killed his tires. With a pitstop less he would have ended up ahead of Vettel.

[Phil]

Anybody else think its weird how Hamilton had no pace at all till around lap 40 when the team told him to change to a different engine mode and plan B? Was he racing the whole race in a lower engine mode?

At lap 40 when he changed it, he immediately started to gain on Kimi by a considerable margin. Makes you wonder why they didnt give (allow?) him that map earlier? Had that to do with brake management?

Any news on this?

[Schuttelberg]

bad start, and then was in traffic pretty much the whole time

An understatement, if ever there was one. On the other side of Red Bull's garage, Ricciardo (who, unlike Max, was using the old Renault PU) almost won the race

Yes, he also killed his tires. With a pitstop less he would have ended up ahead of Vettel.

With a pitstop less he would have may be not finished or even finished outside the points. Everyone has to manage tires and of the top 3 teams, he was the worst driver by far.

[cooken]

Anybody else think its weird how Hamilton had no pace at all till around lap 40 when the team told him to change to a different engine mode and plan B? Was he racing the whole race in a lower engine mode?

At lap 40 when he changed it, he immediately started to gain on Kimi by a considerable margin. Makes you wonder why they didnt give (allow?) him that map earlier? Had that to do with brake management?

Any news on this?

Ham said his front brake temps were marginal for the first couple stints and he had to manage pace, and after second stop the temps got under control and he could push harder.

Probably a combination of cooling setup, heavy fuel laden car, being behind cars. Once the car got lighter the issue lessened.

[iotar__]

- Mercedes tried very hard to lose Rosberg the dominant win twice: with brilliant pitstop and strategy.

- How the hell wasn't that a penalty for Sainz?! One of the clearest calls ever. Hulkenberg went as wide as possible and he rammed into him. If you take out Force India you get extra points (Bernie & Charlie trying to help Williams)? F1 is a sham and a farce.

- Verstappen - avoiding pressure of starts by not participating in them and lack of pace is the perfect way to intimidate. M. Brundle told me that. Then FIA's carrying of him continues, no action for start crash but if you're in front they'll take care of that.

- Hamilton was lucky RB hired Verstappen, Ferrari Raikkonen and Vettel had problems, quality of top teams drivers continues to impress.

[Fulcrum]

I'm still confused how Ferrari were so asleep at the wheel that they managed to roger Raikkonen as badly as they did.

First, he passes Hamilton on track - lucky break, as it was Hamilton's mistake, but a great pass all the same. Now he is ahead, on SS tyres which still have some life left in them, and he can really make a 2-stop work well by running longer on the SS, adopting a shorter 3rd stint that would definitely have been manageable on Softs.

But no, they pit him immediately and make an apparent commitment to a more marginal version of the same 2-stop. Very obviously driving to a delta, Hamilton catches up and they allow the undercut, throwing away a podium with a clearly too-late pit stop.

It's the type of reactive (not proactive) strategic thinking that makes me wonder who directs the decision-making process on the pit-wall.

Otherwise, Vettel must be feeling a bit bittersweet about that anti-roll bar.

[giantfan10]

I'm still confused how Ferrari were so asleep at the wheel that they managed to roger Raikkonen as badly as they did.

First, he passes Hamilton on track - lucky break, as it was Hamilton's mistake, but a great pass all the same. Now he is ahead, on SS tyres which still have some life left in them, and he can really make a 2-stop work well by running longer on the SS, adopting a shorter 3rd stint that would definitely have been manageable on Softs.

But no, they pit him immediately and make an apparent commitment to a more marginal version of the same 2-stop. Very obviously driving to a delta, Hamilton catches up and they allow the undercut, throwing away a podium with a clearly too-late pit stop.

It's the type of reactive (not proactive) strategic thinking that makes me wonder who directs the decision-making process on the pit-wall.

Otherwise, Vettel must be feeling a bit bittersweet about that anti-roll bar.

Kimis softs were old and would not have been good enough to keep Hamilton behind in a faster car with much newer tires at the closing stages of the race. Kimis choices were pit then and get back out ahead with newer tires or be a sitting duck later in the race... what choice would YOU have made?
Kimis in lap was too slow and he came out behind Hamilton......thats all it was not some massive failure in strategy .

[Juzh]

bad start, and then was in traffic pretty much the whole time

An understatement, if ever there was one. On the other side of Red Bull's garage, Ricciardo (who, unlike Max, was using the old Renault PU) almost won the race

Yes, he also killed his tires. With a pitstop less he would have ended up ahead of Vettel.

VES was 44s behind VET at the flag. Pitstop is ~27s. They both had to go trough traffic.

[sosic2121]

Haven't seen the race...what happened to VES? 71 seconds behind ROS?

talent

[godlameroso]

Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:17 am

"Hmm tire wear is going to be greater than we think. The US will probably only make it 10-12 laps, the SS will make it 5-6 laps more, and the S will probably be able to go 1/3 distance. The problem is the rears start going off and make driving the circuit very hard. It's imperative both cars function without flaw during free practice so that they can evaluate different strategies, account for the balance change as the tires go off. And also to fine tune the setup because qualifying is extremely important here. Pole is going to be between 1:42 and a high 1:41.

Hopefully there's a better showing from Alonso here, it's always sad to see him give up.

Ideal strategy will be a 3 stopper, 12 laps on the ultra soft, then 15 + 15 on the SS and finish the race on S. Or alternately you can do a two stopper US S S, you cannot two stop without the soft tire, and you cannot 3 stop without the SS and S. Using only the US and SS will force you to 4 stop and that's too much time lost in the pits, the only way such a strategy would work is with the luck of the safety car. There's usually a high probability of a safety car, or VSC, but it's not guaranteed."

I knew it wasn't going to be a 2 stopper.