2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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f1universe
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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by f1universe » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:07 pm

HPD wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:35 pm
There is still nothing signed between Fernando and the new team.
The reason: the results of the simulations. Alonso does not think to lose a penny much less after seeing the simulations of the new car, which put him struggling with the usual: "in the bottom of the table and away from the title contenders".

https://www.diariogol.com/motor/fernand ... 4_102.html
That web is trash, fake news. They always make spicy news with Alonso for easy clicks in Spain.

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by 604gtir » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:01 pm

restless wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:48 pm
In place of Zak Brown, I won't sign Alonso unless he takes much lower salary.
no Alonso - bingo 30mln more for car develeopment. Ok, make'em 29 and sign Lando Norris or Button
and u think norris brings sponsorship dollars to the team?

sure the salary is high, a lot of it is offset by the sponsorship dollars that come with a driver

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by diffuser » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:04 pm

Renault/Mazda have that partnership so maybe they're ll carry the Infinity badge on McLaren?

Edit Thunders: Deleted some Renault Off Topic content.

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by restless » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:24 pm

604gtir wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:01 pm
restless wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:48 pm
In place of Zak Brown, I won't sign Alonso unless he takes much lower salary.
no Alonso - bingo 30mln more for car develeopment. Ok, make'em 29 and sign Lando Norris or Button
and u think norris brings sponsorship dollars to the team?

sure the salary is high, a lot of it is offset by the sponsorship dollars that come with a driver
Alonso brings sponsorship dollars, euro or pounds? Can you name the sponsor, because Mc budget was published and there was no "Alonso sponsorship" there. IIRC, after Mc and Honda next sponsor was worth less than 10mln

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by makecry » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:20 pm

restless wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:24 pm
604gtir wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:01 pm
restless wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:48 pm
In place of Zak Brown, I won't sign Alonso unless he takes much lower salary.
no Alonso - bingo 30mln more for car develeopment. Ok, make'em 29 and sign Lando Norris or Button
and u think norris brings sponsorship dollars to the team?

sure the salary is high, a lot of it is offset by the sponsorship dollars that come with a driver
Alonso brings sponsorship dollars, euro or pounds? Can you name the sponsor, because Mc budget was published and there was no "Alonso sponsorship" there. IIRC, after Mc and Honda next sponsor was worth less than 10mln
You mean that list that was Posted here?
It wasnt official.

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by 604gtir » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:22 am

restless wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:24 pm
604gtir wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:01 pm
restless wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:48 pm
In place of Zak Brown, I won't sign Alonso unless he takes much lower salary.
no Alonso - bingo 30mln more for car develeopment. Ok, make'em 29 and sign Lando Norris or Button
and u think norris brings sponsorship dollars to the team?

sure the salary is high, a lot of it is offset by the sponsorship dollars that come with a driver
Alonso brings sponsorship dollars, euro or pounds? Can you name the sponsor, because Mc budget was published and there was no "Alonso sponsorship" there. IIRC, after Mc and Honda next sponsor was worth less than 10mln
who paid alonsos salary for the
past three years a sponsor.

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by makecry » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:12 am

604gtir wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:22 am
restless wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:24 pm
604gtir wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:01 pm


and u think norris brings sponsorship dollars to the team?

sure the salary is high, a lot of it is offset by the sponsorship dollars that come with a driver
Alonso brings sponsorship dollars, euro or pounds? Can you name the sponsor, because Mc budget was published and there was no "Alonso sponsorship" there. IIRC, after Mc and Honda next sponsor was worth less than 10mln
who paid alonsos salary for the
past three years a sponsor.
I dont know. No one knows for sure apart from Alonso,his manager,guys at Honda and McLaren. For 3 years,as an outsider, I have always perceived Alonso as more of a McLaren guy and Jenson as more of a Honda guy.

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by Singabule » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:26 am

diffuser wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:04 pm
Renault/Mazda have that partnership so maybe they're ll carry the Infinity badge on McLaren?
Do you mean Nissan? Since RBR dont want to use Renault badge, MCL would use it

Edit Thunders: Deleted some Off Topic Content

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by superdowg316 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:49 am

In regards to Renault and Red Bull, they started working together in 2007, just after Renault won their second straight championship. They seemed to function well with the same equipment, even when Red Bull were beating them in 2009, 2010 and 2011. I’m sure they and McLaren will have the same deal, since a Renault powered car winning is better than no Renault winning. Plus McLaren are more civil than Red Bull.
Friendship with Honda ended, Renault is my new (and more reliable) friend.

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by restless » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:36 am

604gtir wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:22 am
who paid alonsos salary for the
past three years a sponsor.
RTFM
Honda. as part of the 100mln sponsorship.
So, whats your point?

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by Thunder » Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:49 am

restless wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:36 am
RTFM
Honda. as part of the 100mln sponsorship.
So, whats your point?
Nothing about that was ever from an official Source.

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by restless » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:33 am

Nothing about "alonso sponsors" was official either. Nor unofficial.
So why claiming "Alonso doesn't bring sponsor money" is worse than claiming "Alonso brings money" ?
McLaren budget WAS published. Total figures are available to public. The 100mln per year from Honda was mentioned several times during last 3 years including from Mclaren officials.

Comparing the public Mclaren budget its obvious that ALL other sponsors add less than 50mln. So the claim is that ALL other sponsors do, is pay for Alonso salary?!
LOL

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by zeph » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:11 pm

Seems like folks forget, so a quick reminder: Honda has been paying Alonso's salary. It will be interesting to see who will pick up the tab.

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by proteus » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:44 pm

superdowg316 wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:49 am
In regards to Renault and Red Bull, they started working together in 2007, just after Renault won their second straight championship. They seemed to function well with the same equipment, even when Red Bull were beating them in 2009, 2010 and 2011. I’m sure they and McLaren will have the same deal, since a Renault powered car winning is better than no Renault winning. Plus McLaren are more civil than Red Bull.
U get what u pay. Mclaren will pay full package and they are obligated to give it to them, like Mclaren provides equal steering wheels and sensors to teams if im correct. The same lubricant provider is a good thing as well in this case.

Somewhat Renault has struck a homerun with getting Mclaren onboard, since they will have some insight of the Honda engine, about things that work and things that dont work, maybe they can make solutions of japanese problems and use them for their advantage. On the other hand, STR could be sent as an information gatherer for them completely unrelated to Mclaren.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Re: 2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

Post by NL_Fer » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:52 pm

McLaren did not seem to be very usefull with Mercedes knowledge from 2014, when they went to Honda.