Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by wuzak » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:56 am

dren wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:28 pm
Ahh Ferrari and their ever changing naming conventions...
The project number?

That has been continuous. The SF70H would have been project 668.

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by dren » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:43 pm

wuzak wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:56 am
dren wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:28 pm
Ahh Ferrari and their ever changing naming conventions...
The project number?

That has been continuous. The SF70H would have been project 668.
I thought the car name is 669 now. I was unaware they had separate project and car names, sadly; something I should know. Thanks wuzak.
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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Jolle » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:15 pm

dren wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:43 pm
wuzak wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:56 am
dren wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:28 pm
Ahh Ferrari and their ever changing naming conventions...
The project number?

That has been continuous. The SF70H would have been project 668.
I thought the car name is 669 now. I was unaware they had separate project and car names, sadly; something I should know. Thanks wuzak.
So many nice (historical) names possible... 166TH (1.6, V6 Turbo Hybrid) or 266 (266cc cylinders). But they probably will go with SF18-H.

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Laserguru » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:09 pm

From 6 mm to 60 mm in seconds...
Almost the exact average of the SFH70 and W08 which is 3677.
Can we expect more cars to move into this direction?
These days I wish I could read Italian and Japanese.
Almost as interesting as watching a training session on friday.
Question is if it is a good compromise or that it turns out you end up with a car that is bad in both slow and fast corners.
I hope and pray it will not be the diva of 2018; last years car was such a blessing.
Still, apart from the engine, when improving the car for slow corners will they be able to win any race if the fast corners are compromised and slow corners are still not better than Mercedes?
I mean they loose their competive edge.
Could be they aim at a championship with few race wins, this is not unprecedented.
They have high expectations on the reliability of the engine (were not in favor of more engines for 2018) so this could be a viable strategy.

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Kalsi » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:47 pm

According to this source the 669 will have an Hidraulic third element for the front suspension after FIA new clarifications about the 5mm maximum height variation related to steering angle.

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferra ... co-992402/

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Just_a_fan » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:41 pm

Does that mean Ferrari are going in the direction of the other teams even though they got these systems banned last season? :roll:
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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by mclaren111 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:09 pm

TJ13:
FERRARI’S 2018 CAR [RUMOUR]
Image


Nice looking Nose !!!

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by aral » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:39 pm

That is a photo of their old nose on the original 2016 car! So it is not the 2018 car "rumour" or not.

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Manoah2u » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:24 pm

mclaren111 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:09 pm
TJ13:
FERRARI’S 2018 CAR [RUMOUR]
https://thejudge13.files.wordpress.com/ ... errari.png


Nice looking Nose !!!
lol, it's an artistic impression and has nothing to do with reality.

according to this, then Santander has not left F1, not left Ferrari, and Ferrari then will feature Santander greatly on their car? :mrgreen:

nope

it's a nice artistic impression on how the 2018 car might look like, but you can be confident it won't be a realistic impression of it at all.

especially since the 2018 competitor will be rather an evoluiton of this year's car and this artistic impression looks nothing like 2017's car at all.
Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools.

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by f1316 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:42 pm

I’m pretty certain it’s the artist impression from last year of how the 2017 might look (the rear wing shows it couldn’t be the 2016 car).

As we saw then, the nose did not follow this path - here’s hoping for this year on aesthetic grounds 😃

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by Maritimer » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:48 am

PlatinumZealot wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:02 pm
The holes on top of the sidepod will actually be bigger than the holes at the front of the side pod... So they say...
Top feed rads a-la Group C eh? Makes sense if you can steer the air properly. Are there any body regulations preventing them from fully enclosing the sides of the car to form tunnels that feed the top of the diffuser?

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by PlatinumZealot » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:09 pm

Maritimer wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:48 am
PlatinumZealot wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:02 pm
The holes on top of the sidepod will actually be bigger than the holes at the front of the side pod... So they say...
Top feed rads a-la Group C eh? Makes sense if you can steer the air properly. Are there any body regulations preventing them from fully enclosing the sides of the car to form tunnels that feed the top of the diffuser?
You coud have boxy side pods running to the rear with tunnels leading to the top of the diffuser but that will hurt aerodynamics actually.

The top of the diffuser is just a pace where yu wat air to flow unobstructed for miniml energy loss. There is an area the front of the rear wheels you want to keep high energy. And also the winglets on top of the diffuser and the vortex generators on the floor beside the rear wheels.
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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by dimitarvv » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:22 pm

“Ferrari's new car has shown surprisingly good results in the team's simulations. This is claimed by the Italian Gazzetta dello Sport, citing sources in Maranello.

The team was pleasantly surprised by the test data of the new car, with which the team has to fight for world the title that the Scuderia has not won for 10 years.”


Found this on a Bulgarian website which is quoting Gazetta dello Sport.
I don’t have a link for the original article from the Italian website tho, so i have no idea if it’s actually true.
If it is, then there’s a reason to be excited for 2018.

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by GTO99 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:15 am

mclaren111 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:09 pm
TJ13:
FERRARI’S 2018 CAR [RUMOUR]
https://thejudge13.files.wordpress.com/ ... errari.png
Nice looking Nose !!!
It about time they adopted this cleaner looking design & got rid of that fugly penis nose!
We can only hope & pray. [-o<

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Re: Ferrari F1 2018 car Speculation Thread

Post by aral » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:34 pm

TJ13 had to take down that report as it was so obviously an old rendition of a year or two ago.
The thumb nose is designed for a purpose, to comply with measurements and also to allow maximum airflow. Unless measurement rules are altered, than the thumb is the current best solution.