General Honda F1 Topic

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by etusch » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:33 pm

"We haven't decided next year's complete specification but at least we have a back-up plan, which is the current engine. So, I'm sure we can start the season well next year."
When we look this part it must be long time ago.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by techman » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:57 am

just happy hasegawa is gone. he is not a leader who can inspire and motivate his troop. negativity and self defeat is all he has . a mark of true weak leader

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by etusch » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:18 am

İf this concept get the expected results his leadership will be base of it success

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Wazari » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:58 pm

techman wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:57 am
just happy hasegawa is gone. he is not a leader who can inspire and motivate his troop. negativity and self defeat is all he has . a mark of true weak leader
While I think that Tanabe-san will be a step in the right direction over Hasegawa-san, calling him weak is unjustified. I along with others found it frustrating at times when he purposely refused to point the finger the other way when PU failures were not the doing of Honda and there were many that weren't. However that is not weakness but a judgement call. That position is under constant pressure, more from Honda than any outside party. You couldn't pay me enough to take that position. As I got to know Hasegawa-san over time, I found him to be a sincere gentlemen who really cared about his staff and HRD. Integrity, fair and diligent are some of his characteristics, not weakness.
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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by techman » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:09 am

While I think that Tanabe-san will be a step in the right direction over Hasegawa-san, calling him weak is unjustified. I along with others found it frustrating at times when he purposely refused to point the finger the other way when PU failures were not the doing of Honda and there were many that weren't. However that is not weakness but a judgement call. That position is under constant pressure, more from Honda than any outside party. You couldn't pay me enough to take that position. As I got to know Hasegawa-san over time, I found him to be a sincere gentlemen who really cared about his staff and HRD. Integrity, fair and diligent are some of his characteristics, not weakness.
with all due respect as i enjoy reading your posts. its my opinion of him. a strong leader always defends his team or troops in all situations. and if the pu problem was a problem caused due to mclaren, then he should speak up and say it without taking the blame, because if kept his mouth shut, it would hurt honda globally as a brand and also create frustation on his team back at sakura. no wonder u mentioned honda staff were not satisfied for hasegawa not willing to defend them. and who would? would you like to work for a leader who cant defend you if the fault is not yours? just look at renault cyrill. if you blame renault expect cyrill to fight back. thats the leader team members want to work for and not a weak man.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Snorked » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:04 am

Hasegawa wanted out of F1 and was behind the change in splitting the responsibilities and choosing his successor?
Honda suddenly announced the change of the F1 operating system on December 7, one week after the Abu Dhabi joint test which will be the final official session of the 2017 season. Yusuke Hasegawa who has served as general manager of F1 project for two years has decided to leave F1. What on Earth is happening to Honda?

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Mr. Hasegawa, who was in charge of Milton Keynes from the middle of the 2017 season, gradually moved to such a system. The latter half of the season was able to develop and race smoothly without trouble with its provisional system, so the go-ahead was given to the transition to the new system at this timing.

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It is Toyoharu Tanabe engineer who takes over the site supervision as a technical director on behalf of Hasegawa general manager.
To add to earlier postings in the thread about Asaki, the article mentions he was involved in the development of the engine used by Williams.

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/mot ... /index.php

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Wynters » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:06 pm

techman wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:09 am
a strong leader always defends his team or troops in all situations...thats the leader team members want to work for and not a weak man.
Don't confuse being 'strong' with being effective or, indeed, competent. In my experience, the best leaders make decisions with an eye on both the short and the long term. They weigh up both the obvious factors and the more subtle ones, the direct and indirect, and adjust their behaviour and leadership accordingly. It might also be worth bearing in mind that what is said in public is not necessarily what is said in private.

Again, based on my experience, I'd be hesitant to work with a leader who was always pointing the finger at other people 'in all situations' regardless of the consequences or environment in which he/she (and therefore their team) were operating in. If anything, that sort of 'one-note' leader is 'weak' as they demonstrably lack the intelligence and finesse to tailor their approach as required.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by HPD » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:49 pm

Zak:

“Eric (Boullier, McLaren racing director) spoke earlier in the year about how there’s a certain way you have to operate in Formula 1, a Formula 1 culture, and I think that’s something they (Honda) now recognise,” Brown explained.

“You kind of saw the same thing with Jaguar, when they came in. They kind of did it the corporate way.

“If you look at Mercedes, they’re not based in Germany – the race team’s in England, the engine facility is in England; Renault is split between England and France.

“Maybe some more Formula 1 experience, direct experience, is probably what they (Honda) were lacking most.

“It certainly wasn’t effort, resources – the facility is great, and I think they’ll get it right.

“It’s more a way of working. I think they’ll get there, but three years was as long as we could wait.”
https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/01/12/br ... e-jaguars/

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Wouter » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:49 am

I postet this morning a question in the wrong Honda topic I think.
So I will post it here again.

Does anyone know if the Honda engine has improved in terms of reliability and horsepower during this winter?
Has anyone information about the progress in the factory? I am very curious.

Everyone's information is welcome.
Maybe Wazari? You have always good information, what I really appreciate.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by etusch » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:27 pm

I am looking forward to see how they do with new MGU-H. I think there will be no mclaren AT products at their mgu-h anymore. There is a bit more than 1 month to testings. very good but still very hard to wait. I am very excited to see the new partnership and wonder what they can do individual and as a team.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by HPD » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:04 pm

Wouter wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:49 am
Does anyone know if the Honda engine has improved in terms of reliability and horsepower during this winter?
Has anyone information about the progress in the factory? I am very curious.
We do not have official Honda news. It seems that our new boss, (Toyoharu Tanabe) does not like to talk much with the press.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Wouter » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:25 pm

HPD wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:04 pm
Wouter wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:49 am
Does anyone know if the Honda engine has improved in terms of reliability and horsepower during this winter?
Has anyone information about the progress in the factory? I am very curious.
We do not have official Honda news. It seems that our new boss, (Toyoharu Tanabe) does not like to talk much with the press.
That is a bit of a shame HPD, that your boss isn't telling news to the press, but I have more confidence in inside information than in the things that are written in the media.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Snorked » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:13 am

Image

Asaki says 2018 spec is almost complete, wants half a season before the full strength of PU is realised? :?

http://members.f1-life.net/regular/62701/

Hopefully one of our Japanese posters translates properly:
"Both of us were beasts and we've been using these animals for a long time recently, so these beasts are getting worse recently, so it will be a smart guy, but then it can not win and that kind of person races I was expecting to return to Honda-like Honda where people like beasts can be active in the Asaki regime.
:wtf: :lol:

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by Wouter » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:06 am

Snorked wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:13 am


Asaki says 2018 spec is almost complete, wants half a season before the full strength of PU is realised? :?

http://members.f1-life.net/regular/62701/

That was the only thing I understand. :(
I would like to read the entire article, but I can't translate it into English. Can someone translate the whole article into English please? I would greatly appreciate that.

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Re: General Honda F1 Topic

Post by RedNEO » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:39 am

Snorked wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:13 am
https://abload.de/img/20180121-011ohrvd.jpg

Asaki says 2018 spec is almost complete, wants half a season before the full strength of PU is realised? :?

http://members.f1-life.net/regular/62701/

Hopefully one of our Japanese posters translates properly:
"Both of us were beasts and we've been using these animals for a long time recently, so these beasts are getting worse recently, so it will be a smart guy, but then it can not win and that kind of person races I was expecting to return to Honda-like Honda where people like beasts can be active in the Asaki regime.
:wtf: :lol:
So the important part..
Already the opening specification power unit in 2018 has almost completed the specification and it should not think that results will come out soon. Asaki himself said "I want time and I want about half a year."



However, I think that those who felt unsatisfactory to Honda of the 4th period which has returned to F1 until now can be a little relieved if we know the mentality of Mr. Asaki. In the first half of the season it may be a tough race in terms of power from the first thought that it will not break anyway, but if it becomes a Honda-like Honda rapidly with the second and third update The expectation has risen to whether there is nothing. It is not like Honda unless the beasts rage.


Ouch! They still haven’t finalised a specification? And already writing off half the year at this stage? YIKES :o