2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
marvin78
6
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:33 am

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by marvin78 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:57 pm

Yeah bit that's the time teams are told what they CAN choose.

dans79
131
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:33 pm
Location: USA

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by dans79 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:00 pm

What is the mandatory use tires for the race, supersofts & ultra?

F1NAC
111
User avatar
Joined: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:35 pm
Location: CRO

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by F1NAC » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:04 pm

dans79 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:00 pm
What is the mandatory use tires for the race, supersofts & ultra?
SS or S

dans79
131
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:33 pm
Location: USA

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by dans79 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:11 pm

Top teams are probably going to qualify and start on Ultras and then do two stints on SS. With the potential to stat and get stuck behind traffic, I can't see anyone starting on SS and then one stopping and going the rest of they way on S.

DVB
9
User avatar
Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:52 pm

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by DVB » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:16 pm

Don't forget the compounds all moved 1 spot.

If the top teams are fast enough to start on the SS or S, then they could stretch the first stint, gain enough lead and come back on a clean track without having to fight for overtaking slower teams.

dans79
131
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:33 pm
Location: USA

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by dans79 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:20 pm

DVB wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:16 pm
Don't forget the compounds all moved 1 spot.

If the top teams are fast enough to start on the SS or S, then they could stretch the first stint, gain enough lead and come back on a clean track without having to fight for overtaking slower teams.
Softer tires mean a 1 stop is less likely because the tires won't last as long. Imo, this is going to be a 2 or 3 stop race.

SiLo
41
User avatar
Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:09 pm

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by SiLo » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:29 pm

dans79 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:20 pm
DVB wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:16 pm
Don't forget the compounds all moved 1 spot.

If the top teams are fast enough to start on the SS or S, then they could stretch the first stint, gain enough lead and come back on a clean track without having to fight for overtaking slower teams.
Softer tires mean a 1 stop is less likely because the tires won't last as long. Imo, this is going to be a 2 or 3 stop race.
Good! I enjoy the races with 2/3 stops as sometimes we get a lot of anticipation from the start, and then excitement at the end.
Felipe Baby!

digitalrurouni
10
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:50 pm

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by digitalrurouni » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:28 pm

No way that track will be 3 stops!

Big Mangalhit
42
User avatar
Joined: Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:39 pm

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by Big Mangalhit » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:32 pm

TAG wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:52 pm
Telling on the tire choices indeed. Potential for different strategies smacks on in the face. Maybe add some spice to the race come Sunday. Ferrari may make a go at trying to save both fuel and tires. Anyone know the pit window delta in Melbourne?
Good point! Makes sense with that if you need to save fuel you can synergize it with a more tyre saving strategy.

Although it could also be the case that Ferrari is not confident on their car yet (or will bring updates) and want a more durable tyre to use on FP to do more setup work on this first race. While Mercedes is very confident on their overall setup and wants more FP testing on this US tyre for this specific track since they didn't use it so much in testing. We'll see if the tyre difference will be kept until the race day or if by then both teams will have exactly the same tyre spec available.

CriXus
50
Joined: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:09 pm

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by CriXus » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:36 pm

dans79 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:11 pm
Top teams are probably going to qualify and start on Ultras and then do two stints on SS. With the potential to stat and get stuck behind traffic, I can't see anyone starting on SS and then one stopping and going the rest of they way on S.
Why not? The delta between US and SS is .4 to .6 of a second. If in Q2, the gap between the best time and the 10th on US is 1s to 1.2s, it is possible.
"Without music, life would be an error!!!" - Friedrich Nietzsche

dans79
131
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:33 pm
Location: USA

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by dans79 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:05 pm

CriXus wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:36 pm
dans79 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:11 pm
Top teams are probably going to qualify and start on Ultras and then do two stints on SS. With the potential to stat and get stuck behind traffic, I can't see anyone starting on SS and then one stopping and going the rest of they way on S.
Why not? The delta between US and SS is .4 to .6 of a second. If in Q2, the gap between the best time and the 10th on US is 1s to 1.2s, it is possible.
Because the tires have to last the length of the stint. You will not maintain that kind of delta while nursing the tires through a long stint. Not to mention they will degrade faster while stuck behind other cars.

dans79
131
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:33 pm
Location: USA

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by dans79 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:08 pm

Big Mangalhit wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:32 pm
TAG wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:52 pm
Telling on the tire choices indeed. Potential for different strategies smacks on in the face. Maybe add some spice to the race come Sunday. Ferrari may make a go at trying to save both fuel and tires. Anyone know the pit window delta in Melbourne?
Good point! Makes sense with that if you need to save fuel you can synergize it with a more tyre saving strategy.

Although it could also be the case that Ferrari is not confident on their car yet (or will bring updates) and want a more durable tyre to use on FP to do more setup work on this first race. While Mercedes is very confident on their overall setup and wants more FP testing on this US tyre for this specific track since they didn't use it so much in testing. We'll see if the tyre difference will be kept until the race day or if by then both teams will have exactly the same tyre spec available.
The tires where picked weeks before testing.

TAG
73
User avatar
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:18 pm
Location: in a good place

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by TAG » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:02 pm

dans79 wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:08 pm
Big Mangalhit wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:32 pm
Although it could also be the case that Ferrari is not confident on their car yet (or will bring updates) and want a more durable tyre to use on FP to do more setup work on this first race. While Mercedes is very confident on their overall setup and wants more FP testing on this US tyre for this specific track since they didn't use it so much in testing. We'll see if the tyre difference will be kept until the race day or if by then both teams will have exactly the same tyre spec available.
The tires where picked weeks before testing.
I think teams would have a pretty good idea of where their fuel consumption would be weeks before testing as well. I'm just excited about the potential for differing strategies, Ferrari are good at it, one area where they rise head and shoulders above Mercedes for sure.
"party mode" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ripper
40
Joined: Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:19 pm

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by ripper » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:54 pm

Last year RB did a US-SS race, so it could be possible to do a US-S race this year, or take a gamble and do a Q2 with SS and do a SS-S race.

GPR-A
149
User avatar
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:00 am

Re: 2018 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, 22 -25 March

Post by GPR-A » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:55 pm

TAG wrote:
Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:02 pm
I'm just excited about the potential for differing strategies, Ferrari are good at it, one area where they rise head and shoulders above Mercedes for sure.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

On another note, on this circuit it is going to be impossible to overtake, unless a car is more than 3 seconds faster. If anyone from leading group gets stuck behind a top 10 car, the race is screwed.