Are we back at the Ilmor saved the day hypothesis? Puh-lease.munudeges wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:36 pmWith Ilmor's involvement, it's pretty much inevitable. This is not the unit produced by the same people over the past three years. Red Bull must have rubbed their hands together when McLaren dropped them, although McLaren didn't have a choice. They absolutely needed to have a known quantity in the back of the car.
When we think indy Honda engines situation then there is a question of Honda need of Ilmor. Whatever, I also read somewhere that Ilmor support on combustion area. This is not important. It looks like Honda walks on his own way and it just take time. I am sure they will be very strong at the end of season.Revs84 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:25 amI know that at one point last year, Honda admitted that they are getting some sort of consultancy, but to my knowledge, it was never really confirmed who it was getting it from.
Additionally, if Ilmor is really giving Honda consultancy, wouldn't that be strange, considering that the Chevrolet engines for IndyCar is mainly an Ilmor engine? Now I know it's a totally different technology, but I still have my questions.
Some people seem also to be of the impression that with such consultancy, the entire team will change. Well that's not the case. Consultancy does give insights to technologies and information which would otherwise take months to develop, however, at the end of the day, all development is still done by Honda to apply and test such concepts within their own designs.
The current engine is the "Team Wazari" special. The engine they should have built if they weren't hamstrung in previous seasons.
It isn't because McLaren aren't holding Honda back. What is it with people here thinking that as soon as Honda has some success it's attributed to outside help. It's a known fact that Honda is now utilizing the many resources within its own company. The reason they've improved is because they've learned from their mistakes. What you seem to be perpetrating is fake news. Some would term it trolling. Unless you have proof that what you're saying isn't just last year's rumors and rubbish.
https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/17280Honda more involved in new Toro Rosso partnership
"Tanabe was in F1 during past eras of our challenge, and recently he was leading the IndyCar project, so naturally he has a lot of experience in trackside operations," added Yamamoto.
"His style of management is to go inside of the engineering room and collect the information and make decisions, rather than waiting for the information to be reported to him outside. Therefore he is able to show his leadership in very close cooperation both with Toro Rosso and our engineers.
"Asaki is a leader who has led some suffering projects at Honda to huge success in the past. He can always make the right decisions in terms of priorities – working out what is good and removing what is bad.
"In Sakura already, he starting by lining up all the ongoing developments in one place, and then made a decision about which one to focus on, abandoning the others. As a result, now we are putting more resources into one project which enables the development to proceed quicker."