2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
djos
100
User avatar
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 5:09 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by djos » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:19 am

rahulyamgar wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:14 am
why its always the redbulls. why r the other renault PUs not having any problem :x :x are they over doing things
It's quite possible that the sudden energy store failure last race and the subsequent uncontrolled cool down of the PU caused some unknown stresses and resulted in this failure.
The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks.

restless
7
Joined: Tue May 10, 2016 8:12 am

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by restless » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:22 am

post-race these engines are inspected and supposedly evaluated ...
More and more looks like teams which Renault dislikes, somehow get worse reliability. probably voodoo magic involved.

johnny comelately
9
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:55 pm
Location: Australia

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by johnny comelately » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:31 am

Go Daniel

Wouter
10
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 pm

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by Wouter » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:37 pm

Sieper wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:53 pm

So there is no Lying in stating you feel the power came too early. Today in an interview with Verstappen on ziggo he said they are still working on finding the iDeal throttle response mapping. They have already made changes. Last year they found it quite early on and he used that throttle response all year.

Just trying to offer Some more input.

Horner said today: "It wasn't Max fault. It was not Renaults fault, it was our fault. " :wink:

Video this morning: https://twitter.com/ZiggoSportF1/status ... 9567779845

Brenton
10
Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:28 am

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by Brenton » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:52 am

Hah, even while joking around about fortune cookies, Red Bull (Verstappen this time) still manage to get an insult in about Renault. "You will have 100 hp more tomorrow". RB crew members all LOL at it. (on Ted's Notebook, an F1 show on Sky)

carisi2k
12
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:26 pm

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by carisi2k » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:40 am

What a performance by the team today. Those pit stops were ingenious .

Wouter
10
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:02 pm

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by Wouter » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:13 am

carisi2k wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:40 am
What a performance by the team today. Those pit stops were ingenious .
Incredible pitstops, indeed. They did a good job yesterday, both drivers as well. Hopefully Verstappen
will be a little more patience next time with overtaking, but he also said he will in front of the camera's.

dren
190
User avatar
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:14 pm

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by dren » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:53 pm

A true team victory. Great race, great finish.
Honda!

loner
9
User avatar
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:34 pm

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by loner » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:45 pm

congratulations MASSIVE jump coming...
according to Abiteboul Renault will give you half a second from the PU in race trim soon which will make RBR unlock performance from the chassis as well , if this to happen its very possible for RBR to get the 2018 title
i wonder if we can question the reliability of this information source though...
It Tolls for Thee.

Brenton
10
Joined: Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:28 am

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by Brenton » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:11 pm

Rumors of 30 hp boost for Renault and 40hp for Honda coming in Canada or France in June. If true, yes this could be a massive boost for Red Bull, enough to challenge for a title!

carisi2k
12
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:26 pm

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by carisi2k » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:50 pm

Brenton wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:11 pm
Rumors of 30 hp boost for Renault and 40hp for Honda coming in Canada or France in June. If true, yes this could be a massive boost for Red Bull, enough to challenge for a title!
Just because Renault says something doesn't mean that it will actually happen. For sure it would be good but if Renault can't even make there current less powerful engine reliable. What hope do they have with a newer more powerful engine.

makecry
38
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:33 pm

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by makecry » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:15 am

carisi2k wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:50 pm
Brenton wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:11 pm
Rumors of 30 hp boost for Renault and 40hp for Honda coming in Canada or France in June. If true, yes this could be a massive boost for Red Bull, enough to challenge for a title!
Just because Renault says something doesn't mean that it will actually happen. For sure it would be good but if Renault can't even make there current less powerful engine reliable. What hope do they have with a newer more powerful engine.
So a race winning Power unit manufacturer is bullshitting and you question their ability but the usual "40bhp update at Canada" from Honda that we have been hearing since 2015 in one form or another is not questioned. lol.

djos
100
User avatar
Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 5:09 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by djos » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:17 am

Renault have a history of making vaporware claims that dont materialise, so me personally, I'll wait and see if they can actually deliver for once!
The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks.

makecry
38
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:33 pm

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by makecry » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:30 am

djos wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:17 am
Renault have a history of making vaporware claims that dont materialise, so me personally, I'll wait and see if they can actually deliver for once!
Most people who have been following F1 diligently would say the same thing-----> I will believe it when I see it.

carisi2k
12
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:26 pm

Re: 2018 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Tag Heuer (Renault)

Post by carisi2k » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:43 am

I think this discussion is probably due for a different thread but my point stands in that Renault has not really done much in recent times to warrant confidence. I believe that the Honda and Renault are quite even at the moment and that Daniel and the Red Bull would have won that race even if it had a Honda power unit. Renault are extremely lucky to have Red Bull and yet don't seem to realise that. I think that without the constant sniping with Cyril that Red Bull could improve further once they decide to move forward with Honda.

I still think that Red Bull made a huge mistake in not disbanding there relationship with Renault 100% when all of the Mclaren divorce proceedings occurred at Singapore.