McLaren MCL33

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by roon » Wed May 16, 2018 12:31 am

That's not an opening in the photo. It's the trailing edge of the mounting pylon. Look to the right and you'll see the second one. Piola's depiction seems legit to me.

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by turbof1 » Wed May 16, 2018 12:34 am

We'll be doing a set of articles on the McLaren nose cone given the complexities in place. Part 1 will soon be finished: Regulatory Framework.

Stay tuned:

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by godlameroso » Wed May 16, 2018 2:38 am

makecry wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 11:37 pm
Morteza wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 11:26 pm
https://i.imgur.com/psRePHr.jpg
The new McLaren nose and front wing featuring nose nostrils (1,2) and 'credit card slots' (4). © Giorgio Piola

https://i.imgur.com/cJUSuwu.jpg
The underside of the nose is incredibly complex, with the nose nostrils feeding a slot (1,2) which in turn feeds the cape vane (3,5). The vertical slots (4) allow further airflow through. © Giorgio Piola
The outlet at the bottom looks different in this photo,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc8QWhqX0AAH3Ye.jpg
That is an outlet, but it's also an optical illusion, in that it's not a triangular hole.
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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by roon » Wed May 16, 2018 4:47 am

It's the mounting pylon. The trailing edges extend past the neutral section.

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by turbof1 » Wed May 16, 2018 12:48 pm

I could very well be wrong (nobody really has seen how the outlets look like), but my guess is that the side holes exit underneath the middle hole. I believe there's not enough room to neatly place them on one line and keeping the whole ordeal legal.

I am assuming here that the middle hole is the same solution as Red Bull. A straight hole filled with specifically placed vanes:
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However, I do think they used a different solution for the side holes. The reason is because the solution with the vanes will basically be limiting flow through your duct. You don't have a lot of options for a middle hole, but you can produce NACA ducts for the side ducts to evade reg. 3.4.1 as there is the space for it:
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So the middle hole is more than like to go straight, while the sideholes have to go inwards and either upwards or downwards to get a full clear on the cross sectional rule. Again I can be wrong, but to me that forces a solution like this:
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More will be explained in the coming article.

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by bauc » Wed May 16, 2018 12:50 pm

@TruboF1, Excellent Work =D>
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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by mclaren111 » Wed May 16, 2018 2:01 pm

Motorsport.com:

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Good picture of the new floor area just ahead of the tyre.

LuisFeF1:

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And another.

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by mclaren111 » Wed May 16, 2018 2:16 pm

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Serious aero testing this morning.

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by radosav » Wed May 16, 2018 2:26 pm

Lando Norris on new aero and old aero.
http://soymotor.com/noticias/norris-con ... sco-949206

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Re: McLaren MCL33

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by tok-tokkie » Thu May 17, 2018 10:02 am

Scarbs video:
He shows the vortex associated with the cape. The cape is solid from side to side is it not? If so then that graphic is nonsense. Yes a vortex may be shed at the trailing edge - but that requires different air speed above & beneath the cape. I don't see what is creating a difference in air speed.
To me it looks like the cape feeds the air directly onto the snow plow. It is leading as much air as possible onto the snow plow. The snow plow has a big curled bit to create a big vortex to do the job Scarbs talks about.

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by mclaren111 » Thu May 17, 2018 10:44 am

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Nice picture from Spanish GP.

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by Blackout » Thu May 17, 2018 12:21 pm

Morteza wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 11:26 pm
https://i.imgur.com/psRePHr.jpg
The new McLaren nose and front wing featuring nose nostrils (1,2) and 'credit card slots' (4). © Giorgio Piola

https://i.imgur.com/cJUSuwu.jpg
The underside of the nose is incredibly complex, with the nose nostrils feeding a slot (1,2) which in turn feeds the cape vane (3,5). The vertical slots (4) allow further airflow through. © Giorgio Piola
Is (1) a slot or not :?:
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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by iichel » Thu May 17, 2018 1:40 pm

looks like something of a ride height sensor near the trailing edge of the cape?

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Re: McLaren MCL33

Post by RZS10 » Thu May 17, 2018 1:46 pm

ground speed sensor?