2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by DiogoBrand » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:14 pm

henry wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:28 pm
DiogoBrand wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:36 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:21 pm
Agreed. No comparison. The closest I can think of off the top of my head was Schuie trying to put Rubens in the wall to prevent him overtaking. That would have been a big crash.

Vettel crashing in to Hamilton was nothing compared to the idiot grabbing another rider's brake lever.
I'm sorry, but as stupid and dangerous as Michael's manouver was, I don't think it was as serious as intentionally crashing into someone else under a Safety Car just to vent some frustration.
Just like drag the danger rises exponentially with speed.
Michael's manouver may have been more dangerous, I agree. But at least he had the excuse of defending against an overtake, while Vettel was just being a prick and banging cars to show how irrational he is when things don't go his way.

Anyway, enough with the OT already.

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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by etusch » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:46 am

Ducati and Honda learned from Yamaha by taming their MotoGP machines to mimic the smoother riding character of the M1.


https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/90520 ... ned-yamaha


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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by NathanOlder » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:37 pm

The little prick retired today, so no more Fenati \:D/
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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by roon » Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:22 am

He may still have a future in e-sports.

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etusch wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:46 am
Ducati and Honda learned from Yamaha by taming their MotoGP machines to mimic the smoother riding character of the M1.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/90520 ... ned-yamaha
https://youtu.be/oEXUrO5wYcE
Taming in what sense? Can't tell from the article. There are 'big-bang' sceptics on this forum; I point you to a few of TC's posts:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26310&p=757250&hilit=bang#p757250
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26310&p=753523&hilit=bang#p753523
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18874&p=750013&hilit=bang#p750013
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24125&p=729177&hilit=bang#p729177

Essentially, how could individual firing moments be felt by the tire contact patch? Regardless of how they are spaced. Driveline elasticity should absorb this. Beneficial effects, if any, of variations upon crank throw angle may have more to do with intake and/or exhaust flow dynamics.

digitalrurouni wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:06 pm
Grabbing the brakes is the equivalent of Seb bashing in to Lewis @ Baku. Still amazed to this day how he didn't get a race ban.
What's your opinion of brake testing?

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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by digitalrurouni » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:57 pm

Brake testing should equally be penalized. Afaik no brake testing took place. On another note is it called brake testing or brake checking?

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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by Nonserviam85 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:13 pm

roon wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:22 am

Taming in what sense? Can't tell from the article. There are 'big-bang' sceptics on this forum; I point you to a few of TC's posts:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26310&p=757250&hilit=bang#p757250
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26310&p=753523&hilit=bang#p753523
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18874&p=750013&hilit=bang#p750013
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24125&p=729177&hilit=bang#p729177

Essentially, how could individual firing moments be felt by the tire contact patch? Regardless of how they are spaced. Driveline elasticity should absorb this. Beneficial effects, if any, of variations upon crank throw angle may have more to do with intake and/or exhaust flow dynamics.
It is not about taming, they achieved almost perfect throttle response giving the riders great confidence in controlling the rear tyre. But it has limitations on peak power.

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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by etusch » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:44 pm

But yamaha doesn't look low from point of power.

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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by J.A.W. » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:51 am

AFAIK, Yamaha's performance problem stems from the DORNA mandated dumbing-down of the electronics suite,
& the fact that Yamaha stayed 'inhouse' for theirs, rather getting onboard with Magneti-Marelli - a mistake
- only now being rectified..
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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by bdr529 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:34 am

digitalrurouni wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:06 pm
Grabbing the brakes is the equivalent of Seb bashing in to Lewis @ Baku.
First let me say Fenati's a complete Idiot,
as to your point, on less your going to take a baseball bat to another drivers head
I don't think there's an equivalent to grabbing someones front brake lever

perhaps you've never seen a successful attempt at this f**king gutless move

Niccolo Canepa track day Mugello 2013


lucky the ride only suffered a broken collar bone, fortunately that rider following them
didn't go head over heel after hitting that bike

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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by Nonserviam85 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:12 pm

Canepa was charged for Manslaughter you know

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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by Nonserviam85 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:13 pm

J.A.W. wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:51 am
AFAIK, Yamaha's performance problem stems from the DORNA mandated dumbing-down of the electronics suite,
& the fact that Yamaha stayed 'inhouse' for theirs, rather getting onboard with Magneti-Marelli - a mistake
- only now being rectified..
Closely related to the uneven firing order though.

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Re: 2018 FIM Moto GP World Championship

Post by NathanOlder » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:01 pm

Never knew canepa did that! What is it with hot headed italians!!
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