Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by Big Tea » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:08 pm

Manoah2u wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:13 pm
doesn't look too bad actually
It looks pregnant, everything looks cute when pregnant, its a nature thing :twisted:
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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by Just_a_fan » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:11 pm

That cartoon car in Gruner's twit thingy won't be built, that's for sure. The airflow off the sidepods would be rubbish and ruin diffuser efficiency. In fact, the whole graphic design based approach stinks. Pretty images that bear no resemblance to real aerodynamics just highlight how F1's owners are entirely clueless.

Ross Brawn should hang his head in shame for taking their milti-million dollar pay packet.
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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by Holm86 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:25 pm

Very happy to see them capping the wheelbase, current cars are way too long, and 3400mm is even 200mm to Long IMO, but so far those regs looks promising, also with the fuel flow increase to 110kg/h =D>

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by Big Tea » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:18 pm

Holm86 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:25 pm
Very happy to see them capping the wheelbase, current cars are way too long, and 3400mm is even 200mm to Long IMO, but so far those regs looks promising, also with the fuel flow increase to 110kg/h =D>
So, are they going to reduce the weight too?
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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by Holm86 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:26 pm

Big Tea wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:18 pm
Holm86 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:25 pm
Very happy to see them capping the wheelbase, current cars are way too long, and 3400mm is even 200mm to Long IMO, but so far those regs looks promising, also with the fuel flow increase to 110kg/h =D>
So, are they going to reduce the weight too?
I don't know about that, but that would be great too, but I doubt it. Just read that the energy store will increase from 4MJ to 5MJ, and deployment will be increased from 120kw to 150kw, so bigger batteries means more weight?

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by toraabe » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:47 am

Holm86 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:25 pm
Very happy to see them capping the wheelbase, current cars are way too long, and 3400mm is even 200mm to Long IMO, but so far those regs looks promising, also with the fuel flow increase to 110kg/h =D>
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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by noname » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:34 pm

Holm86 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:26 pm
(...) Just read that the energy store will increase from 4MJ to 5MJ, and deployment will be increased from 120kw to 150kw, so bigger batteries means more weight?
Maybe no, if they will alter/remove minimal weight of energy storage.

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by Morteza » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:14 am

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by Bill_Kar » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:20 pm

Can anyone direct me to an article concerning the matter of Silverstone and F1? I would love an insight on why this remains an unresolved issue. Of course if someone can put up a synopsis of it, I'd be greatful.

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by jjn9128 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:20 am

Bill_Kar wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:20 pm
Can anyone direct me to an article concerning the matter of Silverstone and F1? I would love an insight on why this remains an unresolved issue. Of course if someone can put up a synopsis of it, I'd be greatful.
Silverstone negotiated a 17 year race deal with Ecclestone where the fee paid to FOM increased by 5% each year for the privilege of hosting F1. Still they are loss making despite the highest attendance in F1 around 340,000 over the weekend and around 140,000 on race day - so chose to activate a break clause in the contract to try and negotiate a new deal with Carey and co from Liberty - along the lines of the profit share promised to the proposed Miami promoters and got together with some other promoters to issue a press release along those lines.

Old deal
Contract break
Attendance figures
Press release
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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by Morteza » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:45 am

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by Holm86 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:18 am

Wouldn't mind if alle teams had to use same internals, but why??? Can't imagine there is that much money spend on internals of the gearboxes.
Just hope they go back to 6 speed gearboxes ....

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by dans79 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:30 am

Holm86 wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:18 am
Wouldn't mind if alle teams had to use same internals, but why??? Can't imagine there is that much money spend on internals of the gearboxes.
Just hope they go back to 6 speed gearboxes ....
They are slowly turning f1 into a spec series, it's depressing.

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by jjn9128 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:32 am

The actual wording from the FIA
1. OBJECTIVES FOR THE SUPPLY OF A COMMON GEARBOX CASSETTE
1.1 The aim of single source supply is to retain current levels of Formula One gear change
performance for all cars at a much reduced cost to the COMPETITORS while also removing the
requirement for teams to design or source their own gearboxes. The unit can be carried over
between seasons so removing the need for costly continual performance development.
1.2 In order to retain COMPETITOR’s own freedoms for suspension and for the gearbox aero surfaces,
the outer housing will remain team specific (designed and produced by the COMPETITOR) with
the common, self-contained gearbox cassette mounted inside.

2. OVERVIEW OF TENDER DELIVERABLES
2.1 This gearbox cassette will be mandated for all COMPETITORS for the 2021 season onwards.
2.2 The gearbox cassette will include 7 forward ratios, 1 reverse ratio and the differential/final drive
in a unit that also includes its own oil system (excluding the team-provided cooler) and the
hydraulics necessary for its own operation as well as some other car functions.
2.3 The unit is intended to replace all the functionality of a current F1 gearbox in a similar package
and close to typical current weights. Details of the technical specification are given in Appendix 1
– Technical Specification.
2.4 New units supplied to teams or PU suppliers will be sealed and tested to ensure functionality,
performance and that they are fluid-tight. Any units used at races will be sealed by the FIA and
become one of the four designated race gearboxes. If problems are identified during the life of
the gearbox, new parts may be substituted providing they are identical (or latest issue equivalent)
parts from the selected provider.
#aerogandalf

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Re: Liberty Media New F1 from 2021

Post by bauc » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:59 am

This does not sound so bad, so teams will still be able to do their own gearbox packaging ect.....
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