Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by JordanMugen » Sun May 12, 2019 4:50 am

Mattchu wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:37 pm
Merc have done the same as Red Bull did and as long as from front on taking a direct line front to back you only count 5 flaps at any point you are okay (grey area which may get closed).

https://i.postimg.cc/N0vH8jgR/mercwing.png
Couldn't you take this to an extreme and pile on more and more Y250-vortex-generating wing tips by offseting more and more elements? :wink:

Drica
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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by Drica » Sun May 12, 2019 1:11 pm

digitalrurouni wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:19 am
zibby43 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 3:57 am
Little bit of rake. What a photo.

https://i.redd.it/22n7mwp9znx21.jpg
Wow amazing shot. Is that a shot of a future WDC for 2019 :P

What I don't get is regulations we're changed to reduce downforce so cars.could follow each other better...in a nutshell yet the cars are faster overall!! I don't understand that.

Also why does pirelli keep mucking around with tore pressures all the time?
I read somewhere that these cars actually have more aerodynamic potential because of the larger span of the front and rear wings, but because of the rules regarding the front wing and bargeboards they are more draggy and more difficult to balance from front to rear. Maybe i misunderstood something, or im completely wrong

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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by Suvesh » Sun May 12, 2019 4:38 pm

Drica wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 1:11 pm
digitalrurouni wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:19 am
zibby43 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 3:57 am
Little bit of rake. What a photo.

https://i.redd.it/22n7mwp9znx21.jpg
Wow amazing shot. Is that a shot of a future WDC for 2019 :P

What I don't get is regulations we're changed to reduce downforce so cars.could follow each other better...in a nutshell yet the cars are faster overall!! I don't understand that.

Also why does pirelli keep mucking around with tore pressures all the time?
I read somewhere that these cars actually have more aerodynamic potential because of the larger span of the front and rear wings, but because of the rules regarding the front wing and bargeboards they are more draggy and more difficult to balance from front to rear. Maybe i misunderstood something, or im completely wrong
They would have more potential for pure (standard) downforce being created from the front and rear wings because of the larger surface area, but in reality they have less potential due to having less ability to create vortexes to control airflow around the front of the car (Because of the simple wings). The larger surface area wings, and deeper rear wing, are what is causing the increased drag.

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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by zibby43 » Mon May 13, 2019 6:29 am

JordanMugen wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 4:50 am
Mattchu wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 3:37 pm
Merc have done the same as Red Bull did and as long as from front on taking a direct line front to back you only count 5 flaps at any point you are okay (grey area which may get closed).

https://i.postimg.cc/N0vH8jgR/mercwing.png
Couldn't you take this to an extreme and pile on more and more Y250-vortex-generating wing tips by offseting more and more elements? :wink:
The assumption there would be that such an approach would be beneficial.

Jozsusz
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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by Jozsusz » Mon May 13, 2019 12:52 pm

Does anyone know why Merc didn't use the new mirrors? They used them only at FP1.

saviour stivala
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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by saviour stivala » Mon May 13, 2019 1:01 pm

Jozsusz wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:52 pm
Does anyone know why Merc didn't use the new mirrors? They used them only at FP1.
Could be because in FP1 the silver cars drivers were seeing a distorted vision of the cars behind.

dren
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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by dren » Mon May 13, 2019 4:33 pm

Supposedly the barge board wing that was split into three elements is creating vortexes that are helping with the rear tire wake.
Honda!

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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by Blaze1 » Mon May 13, 2019 6:03 pm

Here are a couple of upgrades to the W10 that haven't been mentioned yet:


Older Rear Winglet Vane (Pre-Spanish GP):
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New Rear Winglet Vane (Spanish GP Upgrade):
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Older Sidepod Shape (Pre-Spanish GP):
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New Sidepod Shape (Spanish GP Upgrade):
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LuisFeF1
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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by LuisFeF1 » Wed May 15, 2019 7:47 pm

New diffuser in the Spanish GP:

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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by roon » Thu May 16, 2019 4:10 pm

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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by dans79 » Thu May 16, 2019 4:48 pm

Looks so naked like that.

stez90
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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by stez90 » Thu May 16, 2019 5:36 pm

Reminds me the Auto Union Type C in this photo, no front overhang, loooong rear end..

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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by aleks_ader » Thu May 16, 2019 7:15 pm

stez90 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 5:36 pm
Reminds me the Auto Union Type C in this photo, no front overhang, loooong rear end..
Or Bonneville spec...
"And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you're no longer a racing driver..." Ayrton Senna

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Re: Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

Post by zibby43 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:18 pm

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