2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by foneFanatiq » Wed May 15, 2019 4:31 pm

Marti_EF3 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 4:23 pm
Yes, he's on track. Doing short stints of 2-3 laps, but he is avoiding the kerbs every turn, so the issue must be with the driveshafts again #-o
Damn what Is going on with these driveshaft problems !? I would assume they get them from an outside source?

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by Sieper » Wed May 15, 2019 4:35 pm

cost Gasly a good points finish in Baku, In spain they replaced the drive shafts under parc ferme (on both cars) and now during testing they have had several broken shafts. Something is up.

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by Alexf1 » Wed May 15, 2019 4:41 pm

Indeed. Could it be they have their own magic diff solution in development but not bullit proof yet.

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by shingles » Wed May 15, 2019 4:44 pm

Sieper wrote:cost Gasly a good points finish in Baku, In spain they replaced the drive shafts under parc ferme (on both cars) and now during testing they have had several broken shafts. Something is up.
Is it possible they are testing different rear suspension geometry that’s putting different stresses in the shaft, thus causing them to break?


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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by etusch » Wed May 15, 2019 5:34 pm

Honda's Masashi Yamamoto thinks Honda is now in front of Renault

We strive to maintain a high level of reliability and also strive to increase power. This requires a lot of development work. But without it, the gap is not closed. "

"Honda always wants to win. So far we've focused on improving power and reliability. Now I can definitely say we need more power."

"That's why we're going to go down and try to improve."
https://tr.motorsport.com/f1/news/yamam ... i/4389013/
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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by Datco » Wed May 15, 2019 5:35 pm

How many laps did they do yesterday and today?

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by etusch » Wed May 15, 2019 5:38 pm

Datco wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 5:35 pm
How many laps did they do yesterday and today?
Yesterday 131 with Toro Rosso and around 120 with Redbull.
Today I don't know

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by lio007 » Wed May 15, 2019 5:39 pm

etusch wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 5:38 pm
Datco wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 5:35 pm
How many laps did they do yesterday and today?
Yesterday 131 with Toro Rosso and around 120 with Redbull.
Today I don't know
Today: 79 with RedBull and 109 with ToroRosso.

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by Marti_EF3 » Wed May 15, 2019 7:17 pm

Now I'm starting of today videos. First, here is a comparative video about how he was driving the RB15 before the failure at morning, and then the other at afternoon when avoiding all kerbs.

Morning video



Afternoon video



More to come on the 3rd sector!

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by godlameroso » Wed May 15, 2019 7:30 pm

The ability to get on the throttle sooner coming out of that last chicane is huge in terms of lap time, enough that normally you compromise your entry into the chicane by a few tenths because the exit is so critical. It's such a low speed corner ~60kph that the tires are a bigger factor than aero.

A .4 second advantage which Mercedes holds in race pace, can partly be explained by a much more efficient power unit which needs to carry less fuel, but that would only account for .1 and another .2 from lacking power, and another .2 from the chassis and use of the tires?

They are close to the .3 window, once inside the .3 window, the driver is enough to make the difference, and any chinks in the armor are exposed.
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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by HPD » Wed May 15, 2019 7:33 pm

DAN TICKTUM
I think for the Team, data-wise, we got what we wanted as today was about executing a specific run plan rather than setting purple sectors. We had a driveline issue this morning which cost us a few hours but the running that we did get was positive. There will be more feedback later in the week, but overall, at the moment, everyone’s satisfied.
https://en.hondaracingf1.com/insights/B ... ay_15.html

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by McMika98 » Wed May 15, 2019 8:10 pm

HPD wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 7:33 pm
DAN TICKTUM
I think for the Team, data-wise, we got what we wanted as today was about executing a specific run plan rather than setting purple sectors. We had a driveline issue this morning which cost us a few hours but the running that we did get was positive. There will be more feedback later in the week, but overall, at the moment, everyone’s satisfied.
https://en.hondaracingf1.com/insights/B ... ay_15.html
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The arrogance wreaking from his nutsack is one of a kind. Forget rookie or test drivers, no current driver will even talk about setting purple sector, yet Tantrum had to let us know that he didnt push to get purple sectors as if that was within his reach. Wonder what Mazepin said in his comments. It will be quite funny if he fails to pass his superlicence hurdle this year again.

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by Marti_EF3 » Wed May 15, 2019 8:35 pm

Look that Merc on the chicane... And the sound it does exiting it :roll:



RB Final sector



An another one with RB and other cars



I'll post later a few more, with the STR too (because I think we are more or less the same people following them here)

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by LM10 » Wed May 15, 2019 10:02 pm


Interesting Horner: "The Pirelli 2019 have 25% less rubber and are more rigid [...] the concept of aerodynamics (with High Rake) that we developed in the last year was very sensitive to the front wing. we must rebalance new regulations. " # TechF1 #FUnoAT

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Re: 2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

Post by bigblue » Wed May 15, 2019 10:05 pm

Not obvious to me what I'm meant to be hearing. The Honda does it's odd cyclinder deactivation (?) roughness, the Merc seems to do something similar but less extreme. Perhaps it's a lot more obvious if you were there, or perhaps I'm deaf !