2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by sprint car76 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:51 pm

According to crashnet perez deal to stay with racing point just about done. So much for the rumors.

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by vas_04614 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:34 am

So many updates to improve dwonforce and still they couldn't get out of Q1.

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by NAPI10 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:18 am

Hungary never suited RP/FI in past but Perez was happy with race performance & overall car speed. It’s a three-part upgrade so new FW & Nose hopes to bring more performance in second half –
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... BsLOn.html

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Racer X » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:59 pm

https://www.foxsports.com.au/motorsport ... b56f9ac2a0

The media is making it seem like Sergio is threatening to leave RP if they dont deliver him with a car that can challenge for podiums.

But i think what Perez means is that: by 2021 he will be much older and if by then he isnt fighting for podiums then maybe for him Formula 1 wont be a good fit any longer.
Perhaps because he doesn't see the point in just being in F1 just to be in F1.


How ever a driver with such skill and consistent driver qualities like him and Hulk and some other drivers should stay in F1, even if they dont fight for podiums that way we can compare the new young drivers to them.
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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by sprint car76 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:50 pm

This is as far up the ladder perez is going to get. No chance at merc, ferrari,red bull, not even renault. Unfortunately his time has past. Good solid driver but not quite good enough to make it to top teams. His career is nothing to be ashamed of. Made it to F1, drove for some good teams, made it to podium, whats not to like. Interesting part is how long will his new contract be? Now that racing point has money will they shoot for a driver with more star power? Like a vettle or bottas.

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Morteza » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:52 pm

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by search » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:23 pm

any updates on the engine problems in Spa yet?

The drop in performance between Friday and Saturday was fairly large.... so I guess we can expect a penalty for Perez in Monza?! Wouldn't make much sense to run the old engine any longer.

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Racer X » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:16 pm

search wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:23 pm
any updates on the engine problems in Spa yet?

The drop in performance between Friday and Saturday was fairly large.... so I guess we can expect a penalty for Perez in Monza?! Wouldn't make much sense to run the old engine any longer.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... a/4529998/ :

"All six Mercedes-powered cars took the new Phase 3 power unit on Friday morning in Belgium, with the intention of making it to the end of the season with no further changes and thus no penalties.

However, Racing Point's Sergio Perez suffered a failure in FP2, and then Robert Kubica had a different issue in his Williams at the start of qualifying.

Both drivers had to revert to Phase 2 units for the race while the damaged examples were returned to HPP in Brixworth for analysis."__In the Article concerning Perez and Robert
Honestly it was a disappointing event because prior to the engine failure Sergio looked a lot stronger but who knows.
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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by search » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:22 pm

yes. And according to AmuS they wanted to take a penalty this weekend, but Mercedes doesn't have any more spec 3 engines available yet. So Perez is stuck with the old one.

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Webber2011 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:31 pm

search wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:22 pm
yes. And according to AmuS they wanted to take a penalty this weekend, but Mercedes doesn't have any more spec 3 engines available yet. So Perez is stuck with the old one.
Aren't Mercedes obliged to supply the same spec they are running to their customer teams ?

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Racer X » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:30 am

search wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:22 pm
yes. And according to AmuS they wanted to take a penalty this weekend, but Mercedes doesn't have any more spec 3 engines available yet. So Perez is stuck with the old one.
So the team steps up its game on an Aero side and then boom the engines blow up and now we have an OLD spec Engine with a lot of miles on it. Its so sad being a Racing Point fan but I hope Lance can fight for points and maybe podium.....
“With your mind power, your determination, your instinct, and the experience as well, you can fly very high."___Ayrton Senna

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Maritimer » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:53 am

Webber2011 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:31 pm
search wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:22 pm
yes. And according to AmuS they wanted to take a penalty this weekend, but Mercedes doesn't have any more spec 3 engines available yet. So Perez is stuck with the old one.
Aren't Mercedes obliged to supply the same spec they are running to their customer teams ?
They already did, that it blew up isnt their issue.

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by search » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:03 am

I can't remember where I read it, but apparently Mercedes will provide a new engine (once it's available) at no additional costs, at least.

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by Webber2011 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:25 am

Maritimer wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:53 am
Webber2011 wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:31 pm
search wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:22 pm
yes. And according to AmuS they wanted to take a penalty this weekend, but Mercedes doesn't have any more spec 3 engines available yet. So Perez is stuck with the old one.
Aren't Mercedes obliged to supply the same spec they are running to their customer teams ?
They already did, that it blew up isnt their issue.
I see that as a little hard to believe.

Mercedes surely have a contract to supply all their customers with the exact same PU they are using.
When a nice, shiny, brand new one goes BANG :o :o

Unless it is one hundred percent the customer who caused the problem in some way, then I would have thought it actually is a Mercedes issue.
And they would have to supply another to the same spec.

Has anything been reported as to whether it was the team, or the engine supplier who caused the blow up.

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Re: 2019 Sport Pesa Racing Point F1 Team - Mercedes

Post by search » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:59 am

They will get a new engine. I think it's not totally unreasonable to believe that they had only 6 of them available at the same time

edit: and with the potential reliability issues, I'd say it made sense to stop the production process (to get more of them) for a couple of days