Zandvoort

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Yeah, that’s called the north sea.

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Jolle wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 21:43
Big Tea wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 17:17
Just wondering what is going to happen to that track in heavy rain? Yes of course it will run off, but what will the effects be in the track material (+rubber) and the downforce on the car. will it become a lateral force?
Well. The same as in a normal corner but with no standing water.
Not so much standing water as different amounts on the 'up' side and the 'down' side. Also any rubber laied down will also wash off more on the 'down' side so grip will differ.
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Big Tea wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 23:24
Jolle wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 21:43
Big Tea wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 17:17
Just wondering what is going to happen to that track in heavy rain? Yes of course it will run off, but what will the effects be in the track material (+rubber) and the downforce on the car. will it become a lateral force?
Well. The same as in a normal corner but with no standing water.
Not so much standing water as different amounts on the 'up' side and the 'down' side. Also any rubber laied down will also wash off more on the 'down' side so grip will differ.
As the rain is so heavy that there is a difference between top and bottom, other parts of the track will be undrivable. And, it shouldn’t really matter with the amount if it’s 5, 10 or 18 degrees, the water just streams a bit faster.

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Jolle wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 23:52
Big Tea wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 23:24
Jolle wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 21:43


Well. The same as in a normal corner but with no standing water.
Not so much standing water as different amounts on the 'up' side and the 'down' side. Also any rubber laied down will also wash off more on the 'down' side so grip will differ.
As the rain is so heavy that there is a difference between top and bottom, other parts of the track will be undrivable. And, it shouldn’t really matter with the amount if it’s 5, 10 or 18 degrees, the water just streams a bit faster.
If the track is say 10 mtr wide, the top tyres worth has only the rain falling on it, while the lowest edge has 10 mtr worth of rain draining across it. It may not matter, just musing.
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Big Tea wrote:
05 Dec 2019, 00:49
Jolle wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 23:52
Big Tea wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 23:24


Not so much standing water as different amounts on the 'up' side and the 'down' side. Also any rubber laied down will also wash off more on the 'down' side so grip will differ.
As the rain is so heavy that there is a difference between top and bottom, other parts of the track will be undrivable. And, it shouldn’t really matter with the amount if it’s 5, 10 or 18 degrees, the water just streams a bit faster.
If the track is say 10 mtr wide, the top tyres worth has only the rain falling on it, while the lowest edge has 10 mtr worth of rain draining across it. It may not matter, just musing.
With a 30 percent incline the time the water is on track is for instance 10 seconds, from the outer rim to the inside of the track, while for a normal corner, with a 5% banking, the water may take a minute to get to the bottom/inside. so, six times the amount of water on the apex.

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I don't think the concaved-ness will play any role because the turn will be easily flat out with any line.

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Could the concave surface cause more issues with ground effect cars ?
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NathanOlder wrote:
05 Dec 2019, 10:24
Could the concave surface cause more issues with ground effect cars ?
within a car's length, I suspect that the concave difference is almost unnoticeable, so no.

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I think it will be much better than Viet Nam. :wink:
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strad wrote:
15 Dec 2019, 20:59
I think it will be much better than Viet Nam. :wink:
I would prefer India.
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Are they not putting a large grand stand around the outside of that curve? Missed opportunity if not.
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Big Tea wrote:
18 Dec 2019, 18:07
Are they not putting a large grand stand around the outside of that curve? Missed opportunity if not.
Apart from start/finish straight stands, others hasnt been revealed yet. :D