It's a fact that Hamilton came second in the title race in 2007 and Alonso came third. That's a fact. That they had the same number of points is a fact. That Hamilton got the nod on count back is a fact.lh13 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:24 pmThis is the definition of a 'fact': A thing that is known or proved to be true.
Your post contained no facts, only assumptions.
What Andres125sx wrote was a 'fact', as Hamilton really did not score a single more point than Alonso, yet you started your usual mindless defence of Hamilton. Feel free to do so, but don't stop others if they do the same.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:07 pmCame second in the championship to Alonso's third. That's "beating your team mate" in the one way that matters - on the standings table.
Dennis admitted that he handled it badly. With time comes introspection and healing.lh13 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:24 pmIf Alonso did all of that, Dennis wouldn't have hired him again, in my opinion.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:58 am
As for Alonso, well he rather made his bed by effectively threatening the team principal. As to whether there would have been a different outcome, no one knows. Maybe if Hamilton wasn't been messed around by the team in China and forced to run his tyres to the canvas, he'd have won the title anyway. No one knows. Maybe Alonso would have won the title, stayed and won many titles. May be not. But he took the decision to try to force Dennis down a course of action favouring Alonso. But he didn't understand that one man that wouldn't be threatened was Ron Dennis.
Dennis wasn't the F1 team principal when Alonso rejoined. He was CEO of the whole McLaren Group. I said the team was different and it was. Dennis wasn't team principal. Éric Boullier was running the team in 2014 when Alonso joined again.lh13 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:24 pmWrong, again.
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Heikki admitted that Hamilton got the better of him and that he couldn't respond. Heikki was well regarded until he went against Hamilton and then his star faded. His 2004 Race of Champions performance was excellent and many sat up and noticed him. He beat big names to win that event.lh13 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:24 pmI never said all of his 7 championships were against weak teammates, but I like how you left out Kovalainen and Bottas. That's 5 championships out of 7 against weak teammates.Just_a_fan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:58 amAs for Hamilton having "team favour and weak team mates", well neither Button nor Rosberg would normally be considered weak. But if it makes you feel better, fine. And team favour? Other than possibly 07, when has the team favoured Hamilton through a season to give him the title?
Likewise Bottas who'd had a very good junior formula career. When he was at Williams, people were speaking highly off him. And today he still shows the occasional turn of speed and takes poles / wins from Hamilton. But Bottas has also admitted that Hamilton just keeps improving year on year. The team have said the same thing too. People think Hamilton just rocks up and the car does it all, but he has developed as a driver over the years too. People say Bottas is weak because they can't stand that Hamilton is beating him hands down. But Bottas has the back catalogue to show he isn't a rabbit.
You don't like Hamilton, that's fine with me. There are a number of drivers that I'm not fond of but I don't spend my time trying to make out that they're no good. If I do, feel free to point out where you think I'm wrong. And I'll continue to do the same when people try to denigrate one of the most successful drivers in F1 history.