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ye i see a picture of a basic 2014 car on the fia regs website. Looks like a car based on the bgp001 to be honest

astracrazy wrote:ye i see a picture of a basic 2014 car on the fia regs website. Looks like a car based on the bgp001 to be honest

where? I can't find it. It'd be good to see it!

Seeing as we are talking about the 2014 nose now I though I would put in an image of one I just made in solidworks very quickly. showcasing a maximum length nose.


The lower airfoil is the regulated area of the front wing. The other one is the cameras.

Don't mind the lack of detail in anything else there just my mock-up parts.

As for the 2014 noses, lets consider the problems of the current formula for a second. The dominant design favors a high'ish nose, increasing the risk for driver injuries through t-boning or take-offs over the spinning rear wheel of the car in front and additionally making the cars look comical at best.
Furthermore, the regulations mandates a very low, very wide wing in an attempt to improve close-quarter racing, however, the wide wings makes close-quarter racing a loose-loose scenario of cut rear wheels or destroyed wings making drivers refrain from going wheel to wheel.

Consequently, reviving the pre-2009 noses seem reasonable. The dominant design favored a low, narrow nose with an in-wash wing sporting two foils, inherently making it more robust and less prone to failures. Additionally, we'd see better cars of more attractive proportions, expose the front wheels limiting top speeds and less risk adverse driver behavior in close-quarter racing.

Tozza Mazza wrote:

astracrazy wrote:ye i see a picture of a basic 2014 car on the fia regs website. Looks like a car based on the bgp001 to be honest

where? I can't find it. It'd be good to see it!

sorry for taking ages to reply, forgot i posted on here. Where you find the regs for F1. go on the tech regs for 2014 and at the bottom

astracrazy wrote:

Tozza Mazza wrote:

astracrazy wrote:ye i see a picture of a basic 2014 car on the fia regs website. Looks like a car based on the bgp001 to be honest

where? I can't find it. It'd be good to see it!

sorry for taking ages to reply, forgot i posted on here. Where you find the regs for F1. go on the tech regs for 2014 and at the bottom

These are the same pictures that have been used since 2009.

2013 will be the same as 2012. Only that you can use a non structural filler for an astaethically smooth transition between front bulk head height and max nose height. But you don't have to. source: amus, internet

FrukostScones wrote:2013 will be the same as 2012. Only that you can use a non structural filler for an astaethically smooth transition between front bulk head height and max nose height. But you don't have to. source: amus, internet

Would that positively affect aero?

ajdavison2 wrote:

FrukostScones wrote:2013 will be the same as 2012. Only that you can use a non structural filler for an astaethically smooth transition between front bulk head height and max nose height. But you don't have to. source: amus, internet

Would that positively affect aero?

probably not, this is only for visual effect. teams if they wanted too, they could do something similar this year. but then chassis of the car would needed be few cm lower.

In my oppinion nose this year is very ugly. Ant this regulations should be removed

JMN wrote:As for the 2014 noses, lets consider the problems of the current formula for a second. The dominant design favors a high'ish nose, increasing the risk for driver injuries through t-boning or take-offs over the spinning rear wheel of the car in front and additionally making the cars look comical at best.
Furthermore, the regulations mandates a very low, very wide wing in an attempt to improve close-quarter racing, however, the wide wings makes close-quarter racing a loose-loose scenario of cut rear wheels or destroyed wings making drivers refrain from going wheel to wheel.

Consequently, reviving the pre-2009 noses seem reasonable. The dominant design favored a low, narrow nose with an in-wash wing sporting two foils, inherently making it more robust and less prone to failures. Additionally, we'd see better cars of more attractive proportions, expose the front wheels limiting top speeds and less risk adverse driver behavior in close-quarter racing.

I will second this for sure.

Neno wrote:

ajdavison2 wrote:

FrukostScones wrote:2013 will be the same as 2012. Only that you can use a non structural filler for an astaethically smooth transition between front bulk head height and max nose height. But you don't have to. source: amus, internet

Would that positively affect aero?

probably not, this is only for visual effect. teams if they wanted too, they could do something similar this year. but then chassis of the car would needed be few cm lower.

Scarbs said negligible effect with or without the cover on the Flying Lap

I dont get this new rule with panels...Must this transition be non-structural only? Cos if you lower your chassis in order to stay within permitted hight then yo can just build normal nose like McLaren or am I seeing it wrong?

medeni73 wrote:I dont get this new rule with panels...Must this transition be non-structural only? Cos if you lower your chassis in order to stay within permitted hight then yo can just build normal nose like McLaren or am I seeing it wrong?

as far as I understood the chassis regs stay the same. (modesty panel will be in the illegal area for structaral parts, but as it is nonstructural make-up it is allowed (to give the boyracers something to lust for )roflcopter))
in the legal area you can have a transition as you wish.

Only drawback, when the shroud peels back in the driver's face during a shunt or if not installed correctly