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Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 11 Apr 2018, 20:51
by sasa.nikolic
Nope, it can only be less because of air resistance because velocity is squared in equation. So, for example, 950hp +10hp is worth 0,15, 950hp + 20hp is worth 0,27 and so on...
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Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 11 Apr 2018, 21:58
by godlameroso
Engine power is a gain everywhere, unless cars only make max power at top speed. 30hp means .07 on every straight, if there's 5 straights that's 3 tenths.
Gains are usually invisible to the driver, much less the casual observer, a gain of .01 per mini sector adds up to 2 tenths.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 12 Apr 2018, 02:40
by PlatinumZealot
Yeah it is really 27hp for Canada. Modest but significant.Mercedes should be 40hp ahead after that point.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 12 Apr 2018, 03:45
by hasika
Speedweek said the step should be (depending on the information source) between 25 and 35 hp.
As we know,the ICE didnt change a lot during the winter,and Tanabe said the ICE is “one of the biggest components to improve from the development point of view” after Bahrain GP.
So honda must be working on a new ICE for canada.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 12 Apr 2018, 04:47
by GhostF1
hasika wrote: ↑12 Apr 2018, 03:45
Speedweek said the step should be (depending on the information source) between 25 and 35 hp.
As we know,the ICE didnt change a lot during the winter,and Tanabe said the ICE is “one of the biggest components to improve from the development point of view” after Bahrain GP.
So honda must be working on a new ICE for canada.
It is a new ICE. Tanabe was asked a question in January/Feb along the lines of:
"We have heard there has been a lot of input, from Honda's various divisions company wide regarding PU development, more specifically from your Aerospace division. Has this helped progress over the winter?"
To which he responded:
"It is true we have expanded our development to include other divisions and progress is looking good, our ICE will be essentially new with these updates, however this takes time, I want 6 months, then what we have been working on we will start to introduce".
Timeframe suits, and its extraordinarily exciting to see what they may have come up with. We haven't seen a direct heavy evolution of the same architecture from Honda yet. CAN'T WAIT FOR PHOTOS
Disclaimer, I've spent the last 15 minutes looking for that exact question where he stated 6 months, but haven't had much luck, I'm certain others will recall though.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 01:40
by PlatinumZealot
The block and heads will be new but it wont look much different from the outside.
On the other hand the block-heads will be the same and who cares what they look like.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 13 Apr 2018, 11:22
by Thunder
Please no Laptime Discussion in this Thread.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 07:35
by Thunder
Ok again, this is a technical Discussion about the Honda PU.
Wanna Talk about what Circuit fits the TR? Check the Team Thread: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26882
Talk about Honda in General? The General Honda F1 Topic says "hi": viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26921
Any Discussions about the Race Weekend specifically? Good News, there are Race Threads for every Race of the Year. China is here for example: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=27209
Greetings
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 11:32
by mzso
Thunder wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 07:35
Ok again, this is a technical Discussion about the Honda PU.
You mean such things that are not revealed to the public so can't be talked about? (A tad strict)
Well, if you really want a dead topic...
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 11:40
by Thunder
Where did i say such a thing? If it's technical and on Topic for the Honda PU it belongs here.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 11:57
by etusch
İs laptime related only with chassis?
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 12:04
by Thunder
I would say Laptime is ok if it is verified that the Chassis has the Same Specification / Setup when comparing the Times. Since that is almost never the Case Laptime Discussion is better of in the Team or Race Thread.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 13:20
by mzso
Thunder wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 11:40
Where did i say such a thing? If it's technical and on Topic for the Honda PU it belongs here.
But how could the discussion be truly technical when no technical details are known? You know the number of cylinders and their proportions, that the PU has and MGU-H/K and a turbo, the rest is pretty much just rumors...
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 13:27
by MrPotatoHead
Easy. Simply continue the fantasy engine thread that this has become lately.
Edit - I find it amusing that someone rated this negatively for my sarcasm
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 17 Apr 2018, 13:45
by Singabule
I dont really care with outright hp during qualy, the deployment strategy and mguh power that still lacking. Better deployment means smoother at corner exit, May help chasis too. Fuel allowance next year maybe scrapped too, so in line with tanabe liking