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Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 11:18
by Wouter
Wazari wrote: ↑28 May 2018, 22:47
Thanks for the greetings and PM's. As many of you know, I have mixed feelings about posting anymore of this forum.
Welcome back Wazari.
I am glad to see you here again. Hope you keep posting from now on as usual.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 13:16
by nzjrs
Wazari wrote: ↑28 May 2018, 22:47
Thanks for the greetings and PM's. As many of you know, I have mixed feelings about posting anymore of this forum.
Welcome back Wazari!
I'm quick to report the usual suspects around here whose negativity and rudeness contribute perhaps to your negative feelings about this place. I hope others do the same and the mods are vigilant.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 13:28
by flexcon
Welcome back dude!
I have loved formula 1 for over 10 years, since I was a young kid. your conversations here and insight into the Honda project have been amazing to read - You are probably single handily the reason I created an account on F1technical and stuck around.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 13:31
by Thunder18
Wazari wrote: ↑28 May 2018, 22:47
Thanks for the greetings and PM's. As many of you know, I have mixed feelings about posting anymore of this forum but that "C in the V" was just too clever not to comment on. I also had a personal health scare that started about 3 months ago that is now resolved. I am fine.
I do know there is a substantial ICE upgrade built and being tested. For personal reasons I really want to see it in the car. I know it was on the master calendar to be first installed for the Canadian GP. Whether that will happen or not is up to the directors and that decision probably won't be made until next Sunday or Monday. I do know Tanabe-san very well and he is very conservative when it comes to release of new technologies.
Welcome back, if you do not post here, where do you post??
If the Redbull deal is really and truly on the cards then surely bringing the upgrade is a must??
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 13:55
by Wouter
nzjrs wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 13:16
Wouter wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 11:18
Wazari wrote: ↑28 May 2018, 22:47
Thanks for the greetings and PM's. As many of you know, I have mixed feelings about posting anymore of this forum.
Welcome back Wazari.
I am glad to see you here again. Hope you keep posting from now on as usual.
I'm quick to report the usual suspects around here whose negativity and rudeness contribute perhaps to your negative feelings about this place. I hope others do the same and the mods are vigilant.
@nzjrs, I do not understand your strange reaction. May I not welcome Wazari after his long period of illness?
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 14:04
by HPD
I believe that the new PU debuts in Canada.
Christian Horner: "We're waiting with great interest to see the relative performance of engines in Montreal in two weeks' time,"
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 15:37
by maguetox
HPD wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 14:04
I believe that the new PU debuts in Canada.
Christian Horner: "We're waiting with great interest to see the relative performance of engines in Montreal in two weeks' time,"
First, Wazari san, I´m glad you are fine now.
Second,
https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 7881236481
According with Albert, Honda would have ready the evolution for Canada.
Waiting anxiously for confirmation.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 15:56
by nzjrs
Wouter wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 13:55
nzjrs wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 13:16
Wouter wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 11:18
Welcome back Wazari.
I am glad to see you here again. Hope you keep posting from now on as usual.
I'm quick to report the usual suspects around here whose negativity and rudeness contribute perhaps to your negative feelings about this place. I hope others do the same and the mods are vigilant.
@nzjrs, I do not understand your strange reaction. May I not welcome Wazari after his long period of illness?
Oops! I accidentally quoted you
. It was a general comment to those other users which appear in Wazari threads with nothing nice to say.
My apologies.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 16:19
by loner
HPD wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 14:04
I believe that the new PU debuts in Canada.
Christian Horner: "We're waiting with great interest to see the relative performance of engines in Montreal in two weeks' time,"
lol iam pretty sure Horner already know the numbers weeks ago
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 16:24
by RZS10
But we know, as does he, numbers on dyno ≠ numbers on track, especially for Honda
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 16:35
by Wouter
nzjrs wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 15:56
Wouter wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 13:55
nzjrs wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 13:16
I'm quick to report the usual suspects around here whose negativity and rudeness contribute perhaps to your negative feelings about this place. I hope others do the same and the mods are vigilant.
@nzjrs, I do not understand your strange reaction. May I not welcome Wazari after his long period of illness?
Oops! I accidentally quoted you
. It was a general comment to those other users which appear in Wazari threads with nothing nice to say.
My apologies.
Apologies accepted.
I also agree with your post about the rude people.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 16:52
by Thunder18
RZS10 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 16:24
But we know, as does he, numbers on dyno ≠ numbers on track, especially for Honda
With the two separate sources quoting different figure gains, could one be race (+27) and one be Qualifying (+40)??
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 17:10
by McHonda
Or both be wildly optimistic. We always hear these inflated figures before hand then end up with single or low double digit jumps no matter who the manufacturer is.
They don't help keep expectations in order as when they fail to materialise the manufacturer then gets criticised for poor upgrades.
I can't think of one single upgrade in 4 and a bit seasons that brought anything close to that amount. Maybe Ferrari's over the winter 2014/15?
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 17:12
by ArcticWolfie
Thunder18 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 16:52
RZS10 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 16:24
But we know, as does he, numbers on dyno ≠ numbers on track, especially for Honda
With the two separate sources quoting different figure gains, could one be race (+27) and one be Qualifying (+40)??
27 and 40 is quite a bit.. where did you see those figures?
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 29 May 2018, 17:14
by Thunder18
ArcticWolfie wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 17:12
Thunder18 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 16:52
RZS10 wrote: ↑29 May 2018, 16:24
But we know, as does he, numbers on dyno ≠ numbers on track, especially for Honda
With the two separate sources quoting different figure gains, could one be race (+27) and one be Qualifying (+40)??
27 and 40 is quite a bit.. where did you see those figures?
on here, a page or 2 back