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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 17:05
by ian_s
I was just about to repost that picture saying that the panel looks very temporary.
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 18:09
by tok-tokkie
I am surprised by the way they have bent the small pipes in that picture re-posted above (same on other pipes in other pictures). Making it kink on the inside of the bend. I appreciate that by doing it that way the metal on the outside is not stretched & thinned. I also appreciate that the inside of the bend does not induce turbulence nearly as much as the outside. But even so I am surprised and very interested that Honda chooses to do it like that. I also think the cross sectional area gets reduced when the pipe is bent in that manner.
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 19:41
by dren
Wazari wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 22:15
Breakthrough I believe refers to new combustion hardware/process. My understanding not ready yet...but will be mid-season. Come on 740 kW....please.............
Remember this...
Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 20:51
by G'dayBruce
dren wrote: ↑05 Oct 2018, 19:41
Wazari wrote: ↑05 Mar 2018, 22:15
Breakthrough I believe refers to new combustion hardware/process. My understanding not ready yet...but will be mid-season. Come on 740 kW....please.............
Remember this...
Indeed. The secret sauce as I think he put it. These learnings implemented into the new 2019 unit, with whatever enhancements that brings, could make for a very interesting year.
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 21:14
by 63l8qrrfy6
tok-tokkie wrote: ↑05 Oct 2018, 18:09
I am surprised by the way they have bent the small pipes in that picture re-posted above (same on other pipes in other pictures). Making it kink on the inside of the bend. I appreciate that by doing it that way the metal on the outside is not stretched & thinned. I also appreciate that the inside of the bend does not induce turbulence nearly as much as the outside. But even so I am surprised and very interested that Honda chooses to do it like that. I also think the cross sectional area gets reduced when the pipe is bent in that manner.
That's just a baggy firesleeve, the actual hose is nice and straight.
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 21:36
by NL_Fer
subcritical71 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2018, 15:20
I notice there is only one lambda sensor per bank. I would have thought an F1 engine would have one sensor for each cylinder(?).
They have pressure, temperature, knock sensors per cilinder, probably is enough. Also torque sensor on the crank can show enough.
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 05 Oct 2018, 22:20
by knabbel
subcritical71 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2018, 15:20
I notice there is only one lambda sensor per bank. I would have thought an F1 engine would have one sensor for each cylinder(?).
It will be too close to the valve and burn away if you want to place them in the runners
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 17:44
by PlatinumZealot
Thanks for the photo!
Now i simply just cannot believe no so far has mentiones the big old white elephant in the room! Don't you people see thw the three extra holes on the valve cover beside the black boxes?!
All who have posted after Eryngii Please hand in you Honda PU thread memebership cards and leave this very moment! You are no longer qualified to post here!
Eryngii wrote: ↑05 Oct 2018, 00:35
RA618H?
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 17:47
by 63l8qrrfy6
Cylinder pressure sensor looms? Everyone has them.
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 18:36
by PlatinumZealot
Mudflap wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 17:47
Cylinder pressure sensor looms? Everyone has them.
Nope. Haha.
I was joking.
That is not the clue.
I promised to stay away form this thread until real updates.
I will escort my self out.
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 18:39
by 63l8qrrfy6
I'm sure that's what they are though.
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 18:45
by 63l8qrrfy6
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 18:36
Mudflap wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 17:47
Cylinder pressure sensor looms? Everyone has them.
Nope. Haha.
I was joking.
That is not the clue.
I promised to stay away form this thread until real updates.
I will escort my self out.
This makes no sense , please elaborate.
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 19:22
by PlatinumZealot
Mudflap wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 18:45
PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 18:36
Mudflap wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 17:47
Cylinder pressure sensor looms? Everyone has them.
Nope. Haha.
I was joking.
That is not the clue.
I promised to stay away form this thread until real updates.
I will escort my self out.
This makes no sense , please elaborate.
Not much really new from the garage photos we have seen before i would say. The fuel pipe heading under the exhaust i believe that was spotted already.
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 06 Oct 2018, 22:24
by Tzk
So, if honda located the fuel rails underneath the exhaust pipes, what are the round plugs for? I believe they got a plug for the spark plug, the fuel injector and the pressure sensor mentioned above.
But which cable sits where?
Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 07:54
by GhostF1
Crofty commented as Gasly defended against Raikkonen approaching 130R that the Honda seems a good match for the Ferrari right now and apparently has 60hp more than the previous engine.
That's an enormous bump up in power..