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Till now 18-01-2008 ,
Mc Laren MP4/23 and BMW F1.08 , are using conventional mirrors close to the cockpit

Toyota TF108 , Ferrari F2008 and Red Bull RB4 mounted the mirrors on the sidepods away from the cockpit .

I think that Renault , Torro Rosso will keep their mirrors away from the cockpit as they did last year and Williams , Honda will follow this trend

Force India and Super Aguri will use conventional mirrors because they will start the season with modified 2007 chassis

bar555 wrote:Apart from the new frontal upper wisbone , i think that the rear suspension has also been redisigned but i can not find some good pictures to make this claim visual through this photo comparison thread .
What about you Tomba , any good rear suspension MP4/23 pics

Not so far unfortunately

allan wrote:im a bit confused, isnt the 2005 mclaren called the MP4-20? tomba mentioned it in the technical development section as MP4-21, and bar555 did the same here... am i doin the math right?
2008-23
2007-22
2006-21
2005-20?

True, sorry for that

dnomdec wrote:Tomba, mind explaining further the difference between the nose cone / wishbone attachment points on the MP4/22 and 23? From the pics bar555 posted, they look almost exactly the same to me.

The latest pics hy bar555 do show it clearly too. You can see that there is actually more of the suspension connection painted, and in the case of McLaren that means it is part of the nose cone. If you would remove the nose, you'd see that the suspension arm cover and thickening will extend further forward than the monocoque itself.
My point is however that McLaren chose to add a little more to the nose instead of fixed to the suspension. It will give the pitstop people a better chance to fit the nose in place before it is fixed. Previously the gap was a little bit smaller and therefore required more precision to position the nose correctly on the car.

already explained by Tomba
http://www.f1technical.net/development/115

Same inlet shape but airbox area is much slimmer for reducing drag

Really strange , Mc Laren till now never used front or rear wheel rim sheilds I have no idea why

i dont think so they need those shields.. but they were testing those shields during the winter i think .. i know i had seen seen some pics of them with shields.
they all say those shields r for cooling. i think mac's have the best cooling system of all

chasefreak wrote:i dont think so they need those shields.. but they were testing those shields during the winter i think .. i know i had seen seen some pics of them with shields.
they all say those shields r for cooling. i think mac's have the best cooling system of all

As has been said they are extremley complicated devices. Mclaren probably tested and saw no benifit and so at the factory there are probably some refinements going on to them if they plan on using them...

Thanks for all your comparisons BAR555! During the offseason, I often pass the time looking for differences between new and old cars, and your work certainly helps! =D>

The MP4-23 is now running wheel covers, and exotic ones at that!

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/photolarge.ph ... 1&catID=10

Plus, the development to the airbox area reminds me of the little winglets on the Ferrari F2001:

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/199-1.jpg

The new MP4/23 is likely to introduce new parts , as already did with the wheel rim sheilds . Do not worry every new thing will be spotted and "photo comparisoned"

BTW The airbox ears were first seen in Mc Laren MP4/13 1998 .As regards the new sheilds i will post the approriate comparison image .

i got a feelin that the width of the front wing is larger on this year's car compared to the 2007 spec