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Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 26 Sep 2008, 04:28
by humble sabot
wesley123 wrote:
flynfrog wrote:
wesley123 wrote: you know how man...... that, the car will be cleaned after every run so it looks better for the sponsors. You cant make the paint as nice as they are with only 2 kilos of paint, with that you will only make 1 layer of paint.
:lol: where are you get.....ded down quite a bit



here is a similar paint to Macas http://www.kustomrides.com/chromepaint.htm

it goes on a powder

some setups can be recycle
It is just a guess, in car........, wich is pretty plausible. Maybe it will be even more if they paint the logo on it and dont use stickers.
Maybe you should ask mclaren about it, they wont give it precise but maybe they will give a roughly taken answer, like 5 kilo.

snip snip snip, take a close look next time you're at a car show and there are f1 cars on display, even the display models have very simplistic finish. For the most part you'll notice little in the way of primer, the coverage is far from perfect, and if the graphic allows, they will put colours on the same layer, so your flourescent orange could well be on the same layer as your chrome, it takes a little longer to mask, as you've got more steps, but it also saves on paint. Hell last F1 car i saw in person didn't have clearcoat anywhere (an older toyota 2001ish). Internet grade digital photography doesn't tell the whole story of what a surface looks like.

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 26 Sep 2008, 06:07
by Jersey Tom
Carbon pattern looks cooler than paint. That's the real reason :)

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 26 Sep 2008, 15:18
by DaveKillens
Here's some info on aviation paint.

Following timely completion of the cabin installation of the first A380 for Singapore Airlines, Airbus has started the paintwork on this aircraft. The A380 will stay about three weeks in the company's paint-shop in Hamburg/Germany. In addition to the actual painting, most of the other work in the paint-shop is cleaning, grinding, masking and unmasking the 3,100 square metres of surface of the A380.

About 3,600 liters of chromate-free paint is used for three layers of paint (primer, customer-paint, top-coat) for an A380. Only 600 to 1,000 kg of paint stays on the aircraft. Each layer is only measuring about 0.120 mm and is able to withstand differences in temperatures of about 100 degrees Celsius.


http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre/pr ... paint.html

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 00:58
by guy_smiley
most of the teams also leave the leading edge of the front wing unpainted. a couple teams do this with the rear wing as well. just a related thought....

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 01:54
by Conceptual
guy_smiley wrote:most of the teams also leave the leading edge of the front wing unpainted. a couple teams do this with the rear wing as well. just a related thought....
If the paint stays soft like Scarbs says, on the leading edge of the wings it may split and peel back under the air pressure...

I think the REAL question that comes out of this is about wind tunnel testing. If they test 60% scale models without this "soft paint", I wonder if that may be a source of data discrepencies compared to track testing.

Or, it probably doesn't affect the flow at all.

Anyone know for sure?

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 04:43
by Jersey Tom
60% models? They can test full race chassis...

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 05:24
by cba_
but they dont

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 18:48
by timbo
Ciro Pabón wrote:It's a site with the best mods and members in the world (mx_tifosi, timbo and all of you)
I had to double check my forum name))) You sure ment me?
Sorry, nothing to add on the subject. I only wonder why there's so MANY paint on F1 car, sure advertizing keeps it running, but it is still strange why we don't often have cars looking like the early Sauber.

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 18:52
by timbo
Conceptual wrote:If they test 60% scale models without this "soft paint", I wonder if that may be a source of data discrepencies compared to track testing.
Paint behaviour on the surface would mostly depend on surface tension. Organic paint would adhere to the carbon (olso organic) surface very well, and as the layer is so thin, paint won't be affected by airflow that much.

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 01 Oct 2008, 21:48
by Scuderia_Russ
scarbs wrote: Teams often wrap the suspension arms in clear tape, this prevent stones chipping the surface and causing failures.
Heli tape?

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 00:44
by flynfrog
Scuderia_Russ wrote:
scarbs wrote: Teams often wrap the suspension arms in clear tape, this prevent stones chipping the surface and causing failures.
Heli tape?
yep

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 02 Oct 2008, 11:02
by wilson
By painting the suspension parts, a manufacture could hide some secret(and illegal)parts from being discovered. :?

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 03 Oct 2008, 15:39
by SoundMan
duno if it has been mentioned, but by not painting them they also keep the unsprung weight lower than if they were painted, even 0.5Kg would be advantageous in this case...

Re: Why doesn't any team paint their suspension parts?

Posted: 04 Oct 2008, 00:15
by PlatinumZealot
because it's a waste of time?