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richard_leeds wrote:The BMW 1 has a smaller cabin and boot/trunk than the Focus, they serve different customers. Also, BMWs do tend to cost more than Fords

Anyway, Belatti was looking at a Clio sized car.

Smaller boot? by 20 or 30 litres maybe but not a whole lot more. And if you are in the UK its a darn site cheaper to run than the ford with longer service intervals, smaller fuel bills, less depreciation, more reliabilty and a better after sales record.
Small boot really is not a deal breaker!

Im losing my Merc C-class as I had an 18 month lease and although I will miss it, the 123D I have my eye on will cushion the blow of losing the merc

JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:[Im losing my Merc C-class as I had an 18 month lease

Oh and one more thing, the concept of "lease" doesnt even exist here... unless you are a big corporation.

Belatti wrote:We do not get the Korean and Japanese cars that Chile gets for being in the Pacific side.

Hop across the border and get yourself a Soul. Yes, I do know my geography, it'll be a 3 week trek!

I wonder if you could have one freighted to you? My dad did that 20 years ago in the olden days when UK dealers were a rip off, he bought his car in Belgium.

More recently some relatives moved to the Caribbean, not an easy place to buy a car when you are on a small island that drives on the left next to two continents who drive on the right! They ended up buying a second hand car from Japan over the net based on a couple of pics. It shipped out to them.

Be brave Belatti and go for the exotic!

who wants to buy second hand bmw like look on ebay, 2006 models with over 100 thoudsand on clock and still want very high money, then you get people say " oh its a diesel it will go on for ever" well rest of the car wares out and you still have to change belts and stuff on engine, oh my cars does 300 thousand but its all worn out its a disel though, ha dont make me laugh. Would you really buy a studpidly high milage car for high price??

JohnsonsEvilTwin - I test drove a BMW 1 last year, it felt slightly less roomy than a Focus. A bit like comparing an A3 to Golf.

As for cost, I was referring to purchase costs. The more expensive car may possibly be cheaper to run, but that's not going to help if you can't afford to drive it off the forecourt?

adam2007 wrote:who wants to buy second hand bmw like look on ebay, 2006 models with over 100 thoudsand on clock and still want very high money, then you get people say " oh its a diesel it will go on for ever" well rest of the car wares out and you still have to change belts and stuff on engine, oh my cars does 300 thousand but its all worn out its a disel though, ha dont make me laugh. Would you really buy a studpidly high milage car for high price??

Why buy on ebay? Lazy people buy cars(and problems) and Ebay.

Use your initiative and go to Fleet auctions all round the UK. Make them a half decent offer and you will bag yourself a Bargain. 1 series Diesels are very popular for reasons I have given, so finding one isnt a problem either.

JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:

richard_leeds wrote:The BMW 1 has a smaller cabin and boot/trunk than the Focus, they serve different customers. Also, BMWs do tend to cost more than Fords

Anyway, Belatti was looking at a Clio sized car.

Smaller boot? by 20 or 30 litres maybe but not a whole lot more. And if you are in the UK its a darn site cheaper to run than the ford with longer service intervals, smaller fuel bills, less depreciation, more reliabilty and a better after sales record.
Small boot really is not a deal breaker!

Im losing my Merc C-class as I had an 18 month lease and although I will miss it, the 123D I have my eye on will cushion the blow of losing the merc

I dont think you can count relibility ford focus is just as good if you research it. cheaper service? you have to be joking ford parts are cheap and commom as muck, you start needing parts for your bmw they will screw you massivly. compare and bmw alternator vs ford just look at the price differnce

JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:

adam2007 wrote:who wants to buy second hand bmw like look on ebay, 2006 models with over 100 thoudsand on clock and still want very high money, then you get people say " oh its a diesel it will go on for ever" well rest of the car wares out and you still have to change belts and stuff on engine, oh my cars does 300 thousand but its all worn out its a disel though, ha dont make me laugh. Would you really buy a studpidly high milage car for high price??

Why buy on ebay? Lazy people buy cars(and problems) and Ebay.

Use your initiative and go to Fleet auctions all round the UK. Make them a half decent offer and you will bag yourself a Bargain. 1 series Diesels are very popular for reasons I have given, so finding one isnt a problem either.

whats wrong with ebay most are dealers but some private, cash is king is the car market.


bmw have very bland and boring interia, leaste audi's look better

richard_leeds wrote:JohnsonsEvilTwin - I test drove a BMW 1 last year, it felt slightly less roomy than a Focus. A bit like comparing an A3 to Golf.

As for cost, I was referring to purchase costs. The more expensive car may possibly be cheaper to run, but that's not going to help if you can't afford to drive it off the forecourt?

Depends how you budget. If you do High mileage, the 1 series is a no brainer.
As For interior quality, the BMW is at least 1 class ahead of the Focus. AT LEAST imo.
If you are going to do 5k miles per annum, I would still take the 1 series. Because in 3 years time the Focus will be worthless and your money gone....

PS BMW stereos are the worst on the planet!!! their upgraded stereos are almost as bad! lol

And Adam,
Enjoy your Focus mate, not a bad choice at all. Just not one I would make in a million years
I wont go into the nitty gritty but a Focus retaining 37% of its value after 3 years compare to a BMW 1 series holding 58%, and you will know why buying a Focus is an expensive game.

The bmw 1 series does have stop start, surley money you save on fuel will have to be wasted on starter motors? they will ware out qucikly might only last a year if its constant starting 100 times a day

BMW warranty me old mucker

Has the author of this been following our forum? Note "never going to buy a BMW".

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Ok, Citroen 2CV......

If not I cant help as Im afraid I dont have a list of manufaturers or models from Argentina. Good luck otherwise...

Belatti wrote:You definitively know nothing about the South American car market guys

We do not get the Korean and Japanese cars that Chile gets for being in the Pacific side.
We share Brazil cars, and all the 0Km my budget can buy are sardine cans with 1.2 to 1.6 NA engines. No sporty versions.

What is stopping you from buying a car in Chile? or Brazil... do they sell ethanol in ARG like they do in Brazil?