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Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 18 Sep 2012, 09:39
by astracrazy
14.3 Rear view mirrors:
14.3.2 The reflective surface of each mirror must be at least 150mm wide, this being maintained over a height of at least 50mm. Additionally, each corner may have a radius no greater than 10mm.
14.3.3 All parts of the rear view mirrors, including their housings and mountings, must be situated between 250mm and 500mm from the car centre line and between 550mm and 750mm from the rear edge of the cockpit entry template.

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 18 Sep 2012, 12:25
by CottrellGP
astracrazy wrote:
14.3 Rear view mirrors:
14.3.2 The reflective surface of each mirror must be at least 150mm wide, this being maintained over a height of at least 50mm. Additionally, each corner may have a radius no greater than 10mm.
14.3.3 All parts of the rear view mirrors, including their housings and mountings, must be situated between 250mm and 500mm from the car centre line and between 550mm and 750mm from the rear edge of the cockpit entry template.
Thanks alot :)

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 21 Sep 2012, 04:04
by MIKEY_!
what are these?
Image

they look like vanes to me but much boxier than normal

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 21 Sep 2012, 08:21
by wesley123
those are turning vanes, bak in 2009 BMW Sauber did the same

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 21 Sep 2012, 14:03
by CottrellGP
wesley123 wrote:those are turning vanes, bak in 2009 BMW Sauber did the same
And there used on alot of the car this year.

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 06:20
by MIKEY_!
most turning vanes are curved, why have you gone for these square ended ones?

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 18:48
by CottrellGP
MIKEY_! wrote:most turning vanes are curved, why have you gone for these square ended ones?
Yes, most.

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 07:13
by MIKEY_!
have you got a picture of one of these square ended vanes on a car? they look like they would cause some aero problems for sure

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 13:23
by allstaruk08
Image

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 14:37
by wesley123
MIKEY_! wrote:have you got a picture of one of these square ended vanes on a car? they look like they would cause some aero problems for sure
Why would that be the case?

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 16:03
by jordangp
I presume they are acting somewhat like gurneys? Or trying to reduce drag?

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 18:44
by CottrellGP
The picture doesn't give justice as they have a lot more curvature than i the pic

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 08:25
by MIKEY_!
thanks cottrell that's interesting, gurney's could be the answer (although i cant see how they would be better than a curve in this circumstance) maybe the idea is to create a low pressure behind the vane thus reducing drag caused by the tire.
I'd expect these to disrupt smooth airflow between the vane and the endplate, block airflow and reduce downforce, would be nice to see them in cfd

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 16:36
by CottrellGP
MIKEY_! wrote:thanks cottrell that's interesting, gurney's could be the answer (although i cant see how they would be better than a curve in this circumstance) maybe the idea is to create a low pressure behind the vane thus reducing drag caused by the tire.
I'd expect these to disrupt smooth airflow between the vane and the endplate, block airflow and reduce downforce, would be nice to see them in cfd
Well im planing/drawing a major aero package evolution upgrade ready for the KV race soon, so hopefully those veins will be gone :lol:

Re: Cottrell's F1 Car [Model]

Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 11:05
by MIKEY_!
i look forward to it as always mate