Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 17:49
I'm not staying let the teams pick any of the 7 tires in the range, just from the ones Nominated by Pirelli.
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Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 18:02
It usually makes them more consistent, it might kill them in terms of single lap pace however, which hurts your ability to undercut someone.langwadt wrote: ↑02 Jul 2018, 16:53a heat/cool cycles can do strange things to the tire, sometime good sometimes badJust_a_fan wrote: ↑02 Jul 2018, 16:35If the tyre tread gauge causes a problem for some teams, what's to stop those teams "skimming" the tyres themselves? Is that against the rules? Also, why can't they just run a tyre in FP to take a bit of rubber off it and then race it as a thinner gauge tyre? Is this too simple an idea? I guess I'm missing something.
For Mercedes with considerable odds of a pole position i think it would help.
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 18:25
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 19:10
That's sort of what I was wondering, I guess. They might lose a tenth or two of ultimate pace but if they can then run them significantly longer (or harder) then that might be a worthwhile compromise.Sevach wrote: ↑02 Jul 2018, 18:02It usually makes them more consistent, it might kill them in terms of single lap pace however, which hurts your ability to undercut someone.langwadt wrote: ↑02 Jul 2018, 16:53a heat/cool cycles can do strange things to the tire, sometime good sometimes badJust_a_fan wrote: ↑02 Jul 2018, 16:35If the tyre tread gauge causes a problem for some teams, what's to stop those teams "skimming" the tyres themselves? Is that against the rules? Also, why can't they just run a tyre in FP to take a bit of rubber off it and then race it as a thinner gauge tyre? Is this too simple an idea? I guess I'm missing something.
For Mercedes with considerable odds of a pole position i think it would help.
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 19:34
Yes, but they would have to bring more of each, because the teams wouldn't pick how many they wanted of each till Thursday.
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 19:41
Just bring one truckfull and give each team a set of joker cards. Say 2 sets per car per, usable 4 times a year, but must be picked from the truck. The truck would ofcourse have to be loaded sensibly. (Ah, I see the problem)
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 02 Jul 2018, 20:29
so they would have truck around 12 sets of each of the three compound for 20 cars, of which 2/3 will not be used and potentially have to call up the factory to order 250 tires at a weeks notice if the teams all pick the same
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 23 Aug 2018, 10:57
Here's the full list of the tires nominated for the 2018 calendar
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 23:03
Just a thought, what would happen if Pirelli could increase the tyres operating temperature window? Teams would need to lean on a setup, which would work the tyres, to reach optimum qualification temps.
Also drivers are obligated to push every lap, to keep the tyres working and it would prevent them from saving tyrelife on a Q+10s laptime.
Also drivers are obligated to push every lap, to keep the tyres working and it would prevent them from saving tyrelife on a Q+10s laptime.
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 04:28
To an extent i believe the teams wi change their setups as such when the tyre blankets are banned, but the tyre supplier will also likely come halfway and produce tyres that heat up easier. Whether they also overheat easier remains to be seen.
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 19 Oct 2018, 22:28
So I'm sure I'm not the first one to ask this, but what is the point of the full wets?
Today I read comments such as, "it's too wet at the moment but it's nearly right for inters"....if it's nearly right for inters then surely the full wets should cope.
Today I read comments such as, "it's too wet at the moment but it's nearly right for inters"....if it's nearly right for inters then surely the full wets should cope.
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 24 Oct 2018, 11:18
That defeats the point of F1 having control tyres. Control tyres are all about the teams chasing the tyre, not the tyre chasing the teams.
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 06 Nov 2018, 11:53
Why should be about tyres? Like engines, aero, brakes, suspension etc why don't the FIA allow custom tyres for each team within a set rules.? I have always wondered if the teams can make such a complicated machines from scratch why can't they also build their own tyre or at least hire a manufacturer and outsource their tyres.JordanMugen wrote: ↑24 Oct 2018, 11:18That defeats the point of F1 having control tyres. Control tyres are all about the teams chasing the tyre, not the tyre chasing the teams.
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 06 Nov 2018, 15:46
One reason for control tyres is to be able to limit the cars' ultimate performance for safety reasons.
One problem with tyre wars is that whoever has the best tyre wins - we saw that in the early 2000s where Ferrari had bespoke Bridgestone tyres. If my supplier makes a tyre that's 1 second a lap quicker than your tyres are, then you're basically not going to win. No chance at all, no matter what else you try to do. Of course, you can only have such tyre wars if the teams and their suppliers are able to tyre test. That's a big cost issue that only favours the top teams, yet again.
One problem with tyre wars is that whoever has the best tyre wins - we saw that in the early 2000s where Ferrari had bespoke Bridgestone tyres. If my supplier makes a tyre that's 1 second a lap quicker than your tyres are, then you're basically not going to win. No chance at all, no matter what else you try to do. Of course, you can only have such tyre wars if the teams and their suppliers are able to tyre test. That's a big cost issue that only favours the top teams, yet again.
Re: 2018 Tyre Thread
Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 23:05
According to Autosport, Pirelli will use the "thin tread" tyres all season next year.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13996 ... ce-in-2019
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13996 ... ce-in-2019