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Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 20:07
by madly
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Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 20:10
by madly
Huntresa wrote:Thats a reflection right or is taht a bulge?
Anybody has hires photos? I thought it's a big hole in front of nose cone but it seems to be reflections.

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 20:19
by bhall
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Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 21:15
by Huntresa
So it is a bulge like FI last year and Marussia this year ? Is it just for Hungaro to max df or?

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 21:21
by wesley123
Feels like we're going back in time :lol:

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 21:29
by Neno
wesley123 wrote:Feels like we're going back in time :lol:
do you mean this ?? :mrgreen:

http://autoracingworld.files.wordpress. ... -r29-3.jpg

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 21:30
by superdread
Could it be the create a turning vane right under the nose, as the pylons are shaped neutral at that height?

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 21:34
by Huntresa
Neno wrote:
wesley123 wrote:Feels like we're going back in time :lol:
do you mean this ?? :mrgreen:

http://autoracingworld.files.wordpress. ... -r29-3.jpg
God damn underdeveloped Front wings... Makes me sad

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 21:51
by mith
I might be wrong, but I think, that's just some testing equipment.

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 21:52
by wesley123
Neno wrote:
wesley123 wrote:Feels like we're going back in time :lol:
do you mean this ?? :mrgreen:

http://autoracingworld.files.wordpress. ... -r29-3.jpg
I meant 17 years back

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 22:54
by bar555
The new nose cone resembles a lot to Benetton ones back in middle 90's ( 1994 to 1998 )

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 23:10
by madly
FW pylons are different in new nose cone. Compare with Grosjean's car.
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Question is: is it this track dependent nose cone, or new development for next races?

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 12:16
by f1316
So the new DDRS/F-Duct/whatever it is "works", or so they said on team radio. With Lotus usually concentrating on long runs on Fridays, we'll probably have to wait til qualifying to see how well it works (presumably, if it "works", there's no point taking it off) and what effect it is having - higher top speed, the ability to run more wing etc.

Very "interesting" development though - Lotus definitely used the correct word when describing it! This team, throughout its different incarnations, have always been innovators, and it's continuing here.

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 12:28
by N12ck
f1316 wrote:So the new DDRS/F-Duct/whatever it is "works", or so they said on team radio. With Lotus usually concentrating on long runs on Fridays, we'll probably have to wait til qualifying to see how well it works (presumably, if it "works", there's no point taking it off) and what effect it is having - higher top speed, the ability to run more wing etc.

Very "interesting" development though - Lotus definitely used the correct word when describing it! This team, throughout its different incarnations, have always been innovators, and it's continuing here.
If skyf1 do have any idea about it, then I am confused, because they say its passive, although Lotus had said earlier it was working with the DRS system, I still believe it is for increased downforce from the diffuser, and then the drag generated by that system is lost on top the beam wing cover when DRS is opened, we will be able to tell what it does at Monza, if its there at Monza our theory is wrong, if its not there at Monza, we are correct :D

Re: Lotus E20 Renault

Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 12:47
by Huntresa
N12cK but as said earlier wouldnt blowing the diffuser create pretty much the same drag as letting the air out on the beam wing, hence why even move the air?