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Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 25 Jul 2014, 16:47
by the EDGE
SectorOne wrote:McMrocks wrote:Sadly it is the Lamborghinian way of design. Edges, Edges, Edges. For the reason of design not for aerodynamics.

I don´t think you can make that statement because A, it´s not Lamborghini and B, it´s Mclaren´s track car which means there will be even more focus on aerodynamics.
And C, I see no "edges" just beautiful curves and a big fat deffuser, what is it you think should be changed McMrocks?
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 25 Jul 2014, 16:53
by Pierce89
the EDGE wrote:SectorOne wrote:McMrocks wrote:Sadly it is the Lamborghinian way of design. Edges, Edges, Edges. For the reason of design not for aerodynamics.

I don´t think you can make that statement because A, it´s not Lamborghini and B, it´s Mclaren´s track car which means there will be even more focus on aerodynamics.
And C, I see no "edges" just beautiful curves and a big fat deffuser, what is it you think should be changed McMrocks?
How can you see no edges? It does look like a Lambo.
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 25 Jul 2014, 17:01
by the EDGE
And C, I see no "edges" just beautiful curves and a big fat deffuser, what is it you think should be changed McMrocks?
How can you see no edges? It does look like a Lambo
yes, on the diffuser and the rear wing, where u would expect to find them...just like an F1 car, but the body, the roof, the wings...all nicely curved like the original P1, nothing like a lambo
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 16 Aug 2014, 18:30
by SectorOne
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 17 Aug 2014, 14:47
by ergenomic
Looks great. I believe this is a strong hint on the livery of the F1 car next year. I speculate, the silver/gun-metal will be replaced by metallic white (honda) and will leave us with a great looking F1 car.
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 17 Aug 2014, 16:47
by theblackangus
I think the P1 has great lines, conservative but still powerful looking. Definitely not too angular.
Ill go out on a limb here and say the recent volume production lambos haven't been crazy enough.
The new gallardo should have *looked* like the sesto elemento, understand it couldn't be the right price with the materials used, but the shape could still have been as "wild".
I love lambos because they were off the wall, since audi bought them they have been too "clinical" to me. Better mechanically yes, better looking no.
Dont get me wrong I still think they look good, but not nearly what a lambo could/should look.
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 17 Aug 2014, 17:56
by SectorOne
theblackangus wrote:Dont get me wrong I still think they look good, but not nearly what a lambo could/should look.
Only the Countach really looked mental though. The Diablo is actually quite sanitized in it´s looks and the same thing you see in the Gallardo, Murcielago and the new Huracan.
Seems to me the Countach was an anomaly in crazy designs compared to what they actually put on the streets prior to Audi buying them.
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 02:48
by NoDivergence
ergenomic wrote:Looks great. I believe this is a strong hint on the livery of the F1 car next year. I speculate, the silver/gun-metal will be replaced by metallic white (honda) and will leave us with a great looking F1 car.
Doubt it. This livery mimics the colorscheme of the first prototype McLaren F1 GTR.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/ ... 25_063.jpg
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 11:09
by Andres125sx
SectorOne wrote:theblackangus wrote:Dont get me wrong I still think they look good, but not nearly what a lambo could/should look.
Only the Countach really looked mental though.
errr.....

Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 14:27
by ergenomic
NoDivergence wrote:ergenomic wrote:Looks great. I believe this is a strong hint on the livery of the F1 car next year. I speculate, the silver/gun-metal will be replaced by metallic white (honda) and will leave us with a great looking F1 car.
Doubt it. This livery mimics the colorscheme of the first prototype McLaren F1 GTR.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/ ... 25_063.jpg
Fair point, but I think the 650S Sprint livery is something like what I had in mind when I described the P1 being an indication of the F1 livery next year. Take a look at this:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/mclaren- ... to-2851184
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 16:55
by SectorOne
Andres125sx wrote:SectorOne wrote:theblackangus wrote:Dont get me wrong I still think they look good, but not nearly what a lambo could/should look.
Only the Countach really looked mental though.
errr.....
That car was produced under the reign of Audi. Not prior.
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 18:36
by Andres125sx
And....
You both were stating Lambo does not do mental cars anymore since Audi bought it, and you said even before Audi they only produced one mental car, the Countach, so you actually don´t consider Lamborghini as a manufacturer that design mental cars, no matter what era we talk about
To me the Veneno is quite mental, and I could give you more examples, Reventon was mind blowing when it was released
SectorOne wrote:theblackangus wrote:Dont get me wrong I still think they look good, but not nearly what a lambo could/should look.
Only the Countach really looked mental though. The Diablo is actually quite sanitized in it´s looks and the same thing you see in the Gallardo, Murcielago and the new
Huracan.
Anycase they´re similar to Porsche, they don´t do big changes in design, they prefer to keep their line without mayor changes. Even so, Veneno...

Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 20:08
by acosmichippo
The weird thing with Lambo now is that their production cars seem pretty tame, whereas the special edition cars like the Veneno and Sesto Elemento are properly insane. I wish they would take more elements from those special edition cars and put them into their regular production runs.
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 20:20
by SectorOne
Andres125sx wrote:And....
You both were stating Lambo does not do mental cars anymore since Audi bought it, and you said even before Audi they only produced one mental car, the Countach, so you actually don´t consider Lamborghini as a manufacturer that design mental cars, no matter what era we talk about
No i wasn´t, i responded to the claim that Lamborghini´s somehow should look mental when in fact, the majority of the cars are the exact opposite.
Bar one car, the Countach. So this whole mental thing came when Audi got into the picture.
The Veneno, the SUV, the Egoista, Sesto Elemento etc.
If you look through history the cars are far from mental, it´s only after Audi came in where the batsh*t crazy took over completely.
Thankfully the normal cars still have some decency left in them.
Re: McLaren P1
Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 02:06
by theblackangus
Andres125sx wrote:And....
You both were stating Lambo does not do mental cars anymore since Audi bought it, and you said even before Audi they only produced one mental car, the Countach, so you actually don´t consider Lamborghini as a manufacturer that design mental cars, no matter what era we talk about
To me the Veneno is quite mental, and I could give you more examples, Reventon was mind blowing when it was released
SectorOne wrote:theblackangus wrote:Dont get me wrong I still think they look good, but not nearly what a lambo could/should look.
Only the Countach really looked mental though. The Diablo is actually quite sanitized in it´s looks and the same thing you see in the Gallardo, Murcielago and the new
Huracan.
Anycase they´re similar to Porsche, they don´t do big changes in design, they prefer to keep their line without mayor changes. Even so, Veneno...

In my original post I specifically said "Ill go out on a limb here and say the recent volume production lambos haven't been crazy enough."
I agree the Sesto Elemento and Veneno are mental enough, but I wouldn't really count them as volume production.
Every lambo should be as crazy awesome as those two.
