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_cerber1 wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2019, 09:02

An interesting comparison of performance Renault and Honda.

https://unendinginsight.wordpress.com/2 ... #more-1125

I was looking at interest the verstappen, gasly and ricciardo's overlays. Daniel was up on gasly going in to t11-13 and then lost time on the entry. It looks like the braking is where renault are losing ground and I wonder if the taller gearing has anything to do with that. Daniel was faster in the sweeping t8 - t9 complex which is interesting. I wonder also how much is the Renault and how much is Daniel.

carisi2k wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2019, 01:19

_cerber1 wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2019, 09:02

An interesting comparison of performance Renault and Honda.

https://unendinginsight.wordpress.com/2 ... #more-1125

I was looking at interest the verstappen, gasly and ricciardo's overlays. Daniel was up on gasly going in to t11-13 and then lost time on the entry. It looks like the braking is where renault are losing ground and I wonder if the taller gearing has anything to do with that. Daniel was faster in the sweeping t8 - t9 complex which is interesting. I wonder also how much is the Renault and how much is Daniel.

Daniel has mentioned the Renault isn't as good at bump control which would indicate he isn't able to use the curbs as aggressively as the RBR boys.

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carisi2k wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2019, 01:19

_cerber1 wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2019, 09:02

An interesting comparison of performance Renault and Honda.

https://unendinginsight.wordpress.com/2 ... #more-1125

I was looking at interest the verstappen, gasly and ricciardo's overlays. Daniel was up on gasly going in to t11-13 and then lost time on the entry. It looks like the braking is where renault are losing ground and I wonder if the taller gearing has anything to do with that. Daniel was faster in the sweeping t8 - t9 complex which is interesting. I wonder also how much is the Renault and how much is Daniel.

Daniel usually is smooth as butter on the brakes. Maybe it's the engine braking. Obvious example of this snapping is here at the start of Azer GP.

https://youtu.be/izLICVxiBGY?t=16

Jejking wrote: ↑

01 May 2019, 13:57

carisi2k wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2019, 01:19

_cerber1 wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2019, 09:02

An interesting comparison of performance Renault and Honda.

https://unendinginsight.wordpress.com/2 ... #more-1125

I was looking at interest the verstappen, gasly and ricciardo's overlays. Daniel was up on gasly going in to t11-13 and then lost time on the entry. It looks like the braking is where renault are losing ground and I wonder if the taller gearing has anything to do with that. Daniel was faster in the sweeping t8 - t9 complex which is interesting. I wonder also how much is the Renault and how much is Daniel.

Redbull usually is smooth as butter on the brakes. Maybe it's the engine braking. Obvious example of this snapping is here at the start of Azer GP.

https://youtu.be/izLICVxiBGY?t=16

correction.

Jejking wrote: ↑

01 May 2019, 13:57

Daniel usually is smooth as butter on the brakes. Maybe it's the engine braking. Obvious example of this snapping is here at the start of Azer GP.

https://youtu.be/izLICVxiBGY?t=16

Sounds related to downshifts if the sound is properly synched on this video.

On that video Daniel couldn't get past Kyvat even with DRS and a tow down the main straight. Out of the corner the RS19 also lacked traction and so maybe the full potential of the RS19 is being masked by the chassis inability to use the engine. Renault need to sort this instability out because it is hampering both him and Nico.

Jejking wrote: ↑

01 May 2019, 13:57

Daniel usually is smooth as butter on the brakes. Maybe it's the engine braking.

Could be. But I would have thought braking is related to chassis and aerodynamics?

Of course - its related to everything - driver, braking system, DF, control of MGUK and engine etc

Apparently Renault have a new PU available. Is there any info on this update.

Update will be used by both teams

More reliable hence it can use more agressive engine mode.
Exactly like Honda evo in Baku

Jambier wrote: ↑

10 May 2019, 00:17

Update will be used by both teams

More reliable hence it can use more agressive engine mode.
Exactly like Honda evo in Baku

Not quite. There is an article going around somewhere that says that but since then, Cyril has openly admitted Renault cut corners with their 2019 power unit in order to push forward with power. This update is purely to increase reliability so they don't pop every 2 races as has been shown, Cyril also points out specifically that it will not affect performance in qualifying or race trim. You can even find reference to this in an interview Cyril gave F1 last race and again referenced in the F1 Spain Paddock Pass video that has recently come out.

Whereas Honda actually said their upgrade provided a very slight increase in overall performance and allowed more aggressive modes in race trim, it's been categorically pointed out the Renault one does not affect performance by Renault themselves.

More specifically, this basically points out there is a flaw with the ICE, not just the K which we were all under the impression was the Achilles heel. Whether this update includes a revised K, I'm not 100% certain. Will have to wait and see. But Nico's ICE failure in Bahrain is the only ICE failure I'm aware of, the rest across both teams Renault has blamed the K and the K's software. So it's possible this won't solve everything if it is the same unit.

I stand corrected. Sky are now reporting in the paddock that Renault think they will try pushing the engine a bit more with the upgrade.