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Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 30 Aug 2020, 11:32
by Xwang
I have read the technical regulations and it seems that it is possible to change the wheelbase of the car because the changes to the engine to gearbox connection are token free as well as the changes to the floor made to use a different wheelbase. Moreover, if I have understood it correctly, it is also possible to change the suspension levers and uprights because only "the internal suspension components" cost tokens if changed.
Did I understand it correctly?
In your opinion, will some team follow this route to increase downforce again despite the new rules specifically introduced to try to reduce it?
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 30 Aug 2020, 11:56
by jjn9128
Xwang wrote: ↑30 Aug 2020, 11:32
I have read the technical regulations and it seems that it is possible to change the wheelbase of the car because the changes to the engine to gearbox connection are token free as well as the changes to the floor made to use a different wheelbase. Moreover, if I have understood it correctly, it is also possible to change the suspension levers and uprights because only "the internal suspension components" cost tokens if changed.
Did I understand it correctly?
In your opinion, will some team follow this route to increase downforce again despite the new rules specifically introduced to try to reduce it?
Would cost at least 1 token for changing the plank assembly.
EDIT: Wait it's free to change plank IF changing wheelbase?!?
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 30 Aug 2020, 12:15
by Xwang
jjn9128 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2020, 11:56
Xwang wrote: ↑30 Aug 2020, 11:32
I have read the technical regulations and it seems that it is possible to change the wheelbase of the car because the changes to the engine to gearbox connection are token free as well as the changes to the floor made to use a different wheelbase. Moreover, if I have understood it correctly, it is also possible to change the suspension levers and uprights because only "the internal suspension components" cost tokens if changed.
Did I understand it correctly?
In your opinion, will some team follow this route to increase downforce again despite the new rules specifically introduced to try to reduce it?
Would cost at least 1 token for changing the plank assembly.
EDIT: Wait it's free to change plank IF changing wheelbase?!?
In the 2020 rules it is said:
and the same is at page 121 of 2021 Technical Regulations (available at fia.com and issued on 19 June 2020).
So it seems that changing wheelbase does not cost any token. Do you agree? Am I misunderstanding something?
EDIT: sorry I've not read your EDIT. So do you agree with me?
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 30 Aug 2020, 12:35
by jjn9128
Yes as best I can work out (I was looking at 2021 rules where the table is slightly different) bodywork and the floor are not homologated parts, neither is the bellhousing, so provided the chassis length doesn't change the wheelbase could be altered for free.
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 07:44
by JordanMugen
Interesting allocation of resources from McLaren
A floor costs quite a lot of time and money to make, doesn't it? Bold to make one
just for free practice data gathering!
Further cuts to strakes and rear brake "ducts" (winglets) too:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/floo ... s/4880088/
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 12:47
by RZS10
But they will be allowed to use that part in post season testing, no?
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 12:51
by Big Tea
It has been used this season, so will not be a 'new' part next year
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 13:33
by jjn9128
Big Tea wrote: ↑24 Sep 2020, 12:51
It has been used this season, so will not be a 'new' part next year
I assume it's also why they rushed their new nose. Get ahead of the homologation.
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 13:39
by OO7
How many tokens are teams allowed to spend in 2021 and how does this effect the PU?
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 16:42
by Big Tea
OO7 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2020, 13:39
How many tokens are teams allowed to spend in 2021 and how does this effect the PU?
They can use 2 tokens, but it is a little unclear what exactly a token covers.
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 16:45
by OO7
Thanks Big Tea.
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 17:33
by MtthsMlw
Big Tea wrote: ↑24 Sep 2020, 16:42
OO7 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2020, 13:39
How many tokens are teams allowed to spend in 2021 and how does this effect the PU?
They can use 2 tokens, but it is a little unclear what exactly a token covers.
See here:
https://imgur.com/a/ssQstbQ
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 18:02
by Big Tea
MtthsMlw wrote: ↑24 Sep 2020, 17:33
Big Tea wrote: ↑24 Sep 2020, 16:42
OO7 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2020, 13:39
How many tokens are teams allowed to spend in 2021 and how does this effect the PU?
They can use 2 tokens, but it is a little unclear what exactly a token covers.
See here:
https://imgur.com/a/ssQstbQ
Thanks, some of that looks quite draconian to me?
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 18:15
by the EDGE
Big Tea wrote: ↑24 Sep 2020, 18:02
Thanks, some of that looks quite draconian to me?
Well the original intention was for teams to use this years chassis next year, to cut cost to balance the lost income, and to allow teams to concentrate on 22’s chassis design so the smaller teams were not disadvantage
So not really draconian seeing as teams can now update either 1 or 2 parts of the car if they wish compared, to zero before this
Re: New 2021 rules
Posted: 24 Sep 2020, 19:32
by Holm86
Are the tokens only for off season development going into the 21 season?
Are they free to develop as usual when the 21 season has started??