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Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 01 Apr 2008, 23:53
by MichaelB
Thank you Scarbs and all the others. :D
I thought it would not be large enough to hold a good amount of tungsten or what ever they use today. And a heavy projectile in that space in case there is an accident...nope, don't wanna think about it.
So it is a sensor measuring the distance between the laser and the track. http://www.optimess.de/goe.htm

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 00:22
by bhall
I find this slightly amusing, given the context of the parties involved.

Photo from optimess.de to illustrate miniaturization.
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Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 06:07
by bar555
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it was used for F2007 also

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 10:16
by scarbs
GTO wrote:
scarbs wrote:ITs not ballast, its an optimess laser speed\slip angle sensor.
Pardon me scarbs, but in layman terms pls. :?
Sensing -car speed? Slip-angle of what?
The sensor uses two lasers and two sensors, one detects the road speed and the other slip. Slip angle is the angle of the car to the direction of travel. This is used along with steering angle to detect the front ends behaviour, for example a lot of steering angle and a small angle suggests understeer, as the tyres aren’t turning the car enough.
Speed is sensed by this device as well as the pitot tubes on the top of the car, as they can only detect air speed, which is the cars road speed plus any wind speed

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 11:01
by axle
Would this be to boost the engineers feedback if for instance the driver wasn't that technical?

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 14:03
by scarbs
axle wrote:Would this be to boost the engineers feedback if for instance the driver wasn't that technical?
No, it would be used whether the driver was any good or not, its provides the engineers with actual figures to work from.

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 02 Apr 2008, 20:11
by bar555
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Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 04 Apr 2008, 20:36
by bar555
INDY FINS DETAIL (FLIP UPS)
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1.Double profiled indy fin
2.Vertical endplate
3.The indy fin ( flip-ups) starts from the middle side section of the sidepods
4.The vertical extension of the Indy fin covers the inner profile of the rear wheels so as to prevent turbulence generated by the wheel’s rotation from reaching the rear wing .

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 05 Apr 2008, 16:47
by donskar
Thank you bar555 and scarbs. Great stuff.

Are any photos available of the supposed "radical" new F2008 nose? (Of course, these days "radical" seems to mean "a change actually visible to the naked eye"!)

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 05 Apr 2008, 21:00
by Jersey Tom
I'd imagine they'd run slip angle sensors in practice, quali, and race. It's very valuable data (along with lateral and yaw rate accel sensors) for a race engineer, and tire manufacturer for that matter.

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 06 Apr 2008, 02:33
by Bob Brown
thanks for updating.

can't wait for your front/rear wings comparison after this weekend.

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 19 Apr 2008, 06:50
by bar555
FRONT WING MALAYSIA
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Similar to Australia



FRONT WING BAHRAIN
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Similar to Malaysia

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 23 Apr 2008, 15:22
by bar555
COCKPIT FRONT AREA DETAIL
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There are two “pimples” on both sides of the chassis in front of the cockpit to satisfy the minimum width FIA rule for this area . F2008 had these "pimples " since launch time . This is another area ( others are the engine cover area with the blade fins and the airbox )where a team tries to reduce the car surface thus drag by using clever solutions and bending the rules

The " pimple " in front of the cockpit is there to split the airflow to both sides of the driver's helmet to reduce drag .

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 24 Apr 2008, 08:19
by bar555
FRONT WHEEL RIM SHIELDS
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REAR WHEEL RIM SHIELDS
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Ferrari was one of the few teams to use front and rear wheel rim shields for the first 3 races ( 2 of them were hot ).

Re: Ferrari F2008 aero-mech development in 2008

Posted: 24 Apr 2008, 17:20
by bar555
REAR BRAKES MALAYSIA
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The brake discs had large holes for better cooling

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