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Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 23:11
by krisfx
Can anyone tell me why Stéphane Sarrazin is arguing with the marshals about getting out of his car?

He's caused a red flag for the session already, his car ain't going anywhere, so what has he got to gain?

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 23:28
by machin
Lycoming wrote:
Do they have a larger fuel cell ready to go though? I'm wondering how they would take advantage of the fuel capacity increase.
I suspect that all the teams tanks are built slightly over-sized and then brought down to the limit using displacement balls:-

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/a ... /overview/

So they just need to take some out to get themselves up to the new limit.

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 23:41
by AnthonyG
krisfx wrote:Can anyone tell me why Stéphane Sarrazin is arguing with the marshals about getting out of his car?

He's caused a red flag for the session already, his car ain't going anywhere, so what has he got to gain?

He was trying to get a tow to the pits, so he could rejoin qualifying if the problem wasn't big.

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 11 Jun 2014, 23:53
by langwadt
With all the crashes I wonder if any of the teams could get in trouble getting the required laps for all their drivers?

How strict are they with drivers getting the required number of laps and night driving , would an experienced
Le Man drivers be excluded from starting if they get in trouble and can't make it?

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 12 Jun 2014, 07:53
by Sombrero

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 12 Jun 2014, 16:28
by PorscheLMp1Fan
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Audi should actually have more power than the Toyota when the hybrid boost is over as they get a better fuel flow allowance. Looking at speed data the Audi is only a few kph down on the Toyota.


The stint length being shorter is logical as they use more fuel per lap in their energy allowance the the two petrols, so after the two fuel types have been made equivalent they're using it faster.

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 12 Jun 2014, 22:09
by AnthonyG
How is the Porsche compared to the Toyota stintweise? (lenght, tyre usage)

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 00:24
by PorscheLMp1Fan
At Spa is was pretty much the same. I'd expect them to both make 14 laps and quad stint tires.

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 08:17
by Artur Craft
PorscheLMp1Fan wrote: Audi should actually have more power than the Toyota when the hybrid boost is over as they get a better fuel flow allowance. Looking at speed data the Audi is only a few kph down on the Toyota.
The stint length being shorter is logical as they use more fuel per lap in their energy allowance the the two petrols, so after the two fuel types have been made equivalent they're using it faster.
They should have a bit more power without hybrid boost, but when that happens, Toyota is already in a much higher speed due to much higher acceleration in low speed range when they have 200HP advantage.

The speed trap data says Toyota peaked at 339 but I have seen 343kph on the live telemetry during Practice, whereas Audi only reached 324kph on one of the straights and less in the others(again through live telemetry albeit I think it had 331 on speed trap).

On Eurosport, they said Toyota and Porsche are indeed expected to do 14 laps per stint while Audi 13. They also said teams are willing to use a set of tyres per 5 stints during the day and 6 during the night.

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 16:17
by 03threefiftyz
Is there a source for Practice/Qualifying trap speeds available?

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 17:48
by aleks_ader
03threefiftyz wrote:Is there a source for Practice/Qualifying trap speeds available?
Offcourse: http://www.24h-lemans.com/en/race/results_2_2_2046.html

Here click on pdf for each session.

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 18:26
by RicerDude
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Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 13 Jun 2014, 20:34
by PorscheLMp1Fan
Artur Craft wrote:
PorscheLMp1Fan wrote: Audi should actually have more power than the Toyota when the hybrid boost is over as they get a better fuel flow allowance. Looking at speed data the Audi is only a few kph down on the Toyota.
The stint length being shorter is logical as they use more fuel per lap in their energy allowance the the two petrols, so after the two fuel types have been made equivalent they're using it faster.
They should have a bit more power without hybrid boost, but when that happens, Toyota is already in a much higher speed due to much higher acceleration in low speed range when they have 200HP advantage.

The speed trap data says Toyota peaked at 339 but I have seen 343kph on the live telemetry during Practice, whereas Audi only reached 324kph on one of the straights and less in the others(again through live telemetry albeit I think it had 331 on speed trap).

On Eurosport, they said Toyota and Porsche are indeed expected to do 14 laps per stint while Audi 13. They also said teams are willing to use a set of tyres per 5 stints during the day and 6 during the night.
Of course, but Audi went that way with the power-train, and they were close at Silverstone.

Top speed isn't everything either, Audi have been through at 339 and Toyota at 343. However Toyota's 21.5 was set with a speed trap of just 298 :wtf:

I think the Audi's could have gone a bit quicker but the late slow zone halted any way of doing that.

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 04:59
by MOWOG
Bit of a surprise here?

Le Mans qualifying results:

1. Toyota
2. Porsche
3. Toyota
4. Porsche
5. Audi
6. Audi
7. Audi

And the Nissan ZEOD-RC outqualifies the Corvettes and Aston Martins! 8)

Re: WEC (World Endurance Championship) 2014

Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 05:14
by Lycoming
A bit I suppose. Porsche is higher up the order than expected. Audi behind by a bit more than I expected, with a very wide spread between the 3 cars; even #2 is a second slower than #3 and of course #1 is nowhere because of the fallout from Duval's crash. In the Peugeot days, Audi were able to win despite being behind by much larger margins in qualifying. Being down a few positions at the start is really not a big deal in the context of a 24 hour race. Being that far behind in pace... well, we'll find out soon enough.

Either way, looks set to be a very good race. May actually get up early tomorrow just to catch the start.