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strad wrote:Hemmings recently ran a story on this newly rediscovered 1963 Mustang III concept car.
Thought it turned out kinda nice . Shorter with a 302 powerplant.

Shorter body is fine, but shortening the wheelbase is weird. Quattro S1?

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Drag racers back then also often altered body/wheelbase of stock bodied cars,
& Shelby produced the fastback Mustang - sans rear seats, to compete in 'sports car' racing.

AMC also cut wheelbases of their production cars a bit later on, maybe the Javelin/AMX deserves a look,
(but hey, please - no one need post pix of AMC's awful Gremlin/Pacer pair though - for sure).

Variants of body types often featured wheelbase changes, such as Mercedes-Benz W124, shorter for coupe,
standard for 4 door, station-wagon/estate, & longer yet for limo iterations..

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Beginning to lose track a bit there, are ya now, eh Johnny?
I'd already posted an HK-T-G Monaro (Norm Beechy's) - back on page 6..

strad wrote: ↑

27 Mar 2018, 20:23

Hemmings recently ran a story on this newly rediscovered 1963 Mustang III concept car.
Thought it turned out kinda nice . Shorter with a 302 powerplant.
http://www.stradsplace.com/photos/Mustang_III.jpg

Yeah, not too awful strad - for such a truncated unit, ( when was the true Mustang fastback released,`66?)
Fair enough I 'spose, that Ford didn't want to give away all their eggs at once.

So it runs a 302 nowadays, huh.
Do you know what the original concept car had - a six, or a smaller V8, - 221, 260, or 289?

Oddly, late `60s 'pony cars'- such as the Mustang & Barracuda, were offered in ragtop/hardtop/fastback styles,
but no fastback option on Camaro..

J.A.W. wrote: ↑

28 Mar 2018, 02:13

Beginning to lose track a bit there, are ya now, eh Johnny?
I'd already posted an HK-T-G Monaro (Norm Beechy's) - back on page 6..

Yes, thats what kept it in mind and i thought another shining example wouldnt hurt, highly underrated here, everyone has phase 3's etc.
there is no doubt that i lose track sometimes though

1963 Corvette C2ZR1 Pro Tourer

So it runs a 302 nowadays, huh.
Do you know what the original concept car had - a six, or a smaller V8, - 221, 260, or 289?

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""""In the summer of 1964serial number 9, a convertible, was transformed into a two seat fastback by Andy Hotton's Dearborn Steel Tubing (DST) a company that Ford often partnered with for special projects that also included building the four seat Mustang II concept car.
Once completed the Mustang III made rounds with Fords custom caravan, being displayed at various venues. Then in early May of 1965, it Mysteriously vanished from DSTs shop.........let's review how the Mustang III was created.
To design it DST tapped the talents of Vincent Gardner, a designer who made his bones by winning second place at the Fisher Body Craftsman Guild competition......
To facilitate the transformation of the Mustang convertible into a two seat fastback coupe, the 108 inch wheelbase was shortened 18 inches and the body by about 22.5 inches. Though the front end retained it's Mustang identity, the fenders , doors, roof and back of the vehicle were recreated in fiberglass by DST and Gardner.
A dramatic fastback roofline with expansive backlite, large concave sail panels and quarter windows and a molded in rear spoiler.......
Though the VIN indicates a 260 cubic inch two barrel V8, the engine bay was fitted with a small block displacing 302 cubic inches, years before the 302 debuted in the Mustang. DST added the 3x2 induction and engine dress up items and modified the automatic transmission............""""
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There's more to the story about it theft and recovery and restoration but that's the gest of it.
I hope what I've quoted answers most of your questions.

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A lean clean green - mean machine; (& its a pillarless hardtop 2-door, unlike that BMW "coupe" stat above)..



(@ strad - Ta for the info on that unique Mustang.)

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