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Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 20:43
by LVDH
Hi guys,
HP-Racing made me aware of an important bug. It should have affected anyone who properly reads the rules, so probably not Matteo. :D

I fixed it and uploaded the new version to the Challenge page:
http://mantiumchallenge.com/mvrc-the-rules/

You will have to wait a bit more for all the pretty picture post-processing as I am currently super busy getting something else done.

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 21:11
by CAEdevice
You are right I actually did not notice it :)
What is the bug about?

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 22:07
by LVDH
Nothing that special. When using "special_bc" like an engine inlet and you divide them by left and right, like the rules suggest, the OF case would monitor the left and right side. As the left side does not exist in the simulation it would crash. Now MantiumWFlow detects better if you have surfaces which should not be monitored. I also fixed some other small issues,

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 22:17
by CAEdevice
Thanks! This happened only if I had two engine inlets? With the exhausts (two) I had no issues.

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 22:21
by LVDH
Well I tested it. And I never had issues with having two surfaces for inlet or outlet either. Then HP-Racing reported it and was able to send me a case that confirmed it. But this was only on their second try. So somehow it did not necessary cause an issue. But when I looked into the code, the part that checks if a monitored surface is in the domain or not was missing for "special_bc" so a clear bug. Why it only affected some simulations remains a mystery to be solved, but not by me and not today or ever.

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 22:28
by HP-Racing
CAEdevice wrote:Thanks! This happened only if I had two engine inlets? With the exhausts (two) I had no issues.
The issue only occurs when you put the left exhaust outlet surface into it's own stl. Having both left and right in one stl is fine.

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 22 Sep 2016, 22:30
by CAEdevice
HP-Racing wrote:
CAEdevice wrote:Thanks! This happened only if I had two engine inlets? With the exhausts (two) I had no issues.
The issue only occurs when you put the left exhaust outlet surface into it's own stl. Having both left and right in one stl is fine.
Thanks! Are you ready for the Green Hell?

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 01:19
by etsmc
so I got in this morning to check my simulation and it has completed and am able to do the post processing on it to get the downforce, flow and CoP but opening the case.foam in ParaView I don't get the different mesh regions like the image below
Image

all I get are the ones that start with auto and the internal mesh. could it be anything to do with the mvrc_fast option??
I am using ParaView 3.98.1 64bit

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 07:04
by CAEdevice
The same for me with 3.98.1 (I use it only to show surfaceLIC). Try with Paraview 5.x.x (where the images are taken from).

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 08:49
by HP-Racing
CAEdevice wrote:
HP-Racing wrote:
CAEdevice wrote:Thanks! This happened only if I had two engine inlets? With the exhausts (two) I had no issues.
The issue only occurs when you put the left exhaust outlet surface into it's own stl. Having both left and right in one stl is fine.
Thanks! Are you ready for the Green Hell?
No not yet. Trying to make a front diffuser work but we're not happy with the downforce levels we're achieving..

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 08:53
by LVDH
Not being able to see the mesh regions is not a problem. They do not get displayed correctly in any Paraview version for decomposed cases. I suggest you load they case, select decomposed case option, click apply and then switch to the latest time step. Now you will be able to see the various mesh regions. I you want to load them separately you can do it now. Do not forget to hit the apply button once more after selecting.

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 09:21
by CAEdevice
HP-Racing wrote:
CAEdevice wrote:
HP-Racing wrote:
The issue only occurs when you put the left exhaust outlet surface into it's own stl. Having both left and right in one stl is fine.
Thanks! Are you ready for the Green Hell?
No not yet. Trying to make a front diffuser work but we're not happy with the downforce levels we're achieving..
For the the second race I will use last year car once again (MP004B), with minor updates. I will use the new one (MP005A) when (if), maybe for the faster tracks, the cooling inltes/outlets areas will be free.

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 09:31
by CAEdevice
LVDH wrote:Not being able to see the mesh regions is not a problem. They do not get displayed correctly in any Paraview version for decomposed cases. I suggest you load they case, select decomposed case option, click apply and then switch to the latest time step. Now you will be able to see the various mesh regions. I you want to load them separately you can do it now. Do not forget to hit the apply button once more after selecting.
I tried with Praview 3.98.1 and I still don't see the mesh regions (I see them with 5.x.x), but I can use it with SurfaceLIC (that doesn't work with 5.x.x).

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 09:59
by LVDH
For you it might be because you configured your Paraview to automatically switch to the latest time step. Try from there to deselect the mesh region or internal mesh, hit apply and reactivate it and hit apply once more.

Re: [MVRC] Mantium Virtual Racecar Challenge 2016

Posted: 23 Sep 2016, 10:36
by LETOUZE
hello, I do not understand the column "power" (100; 73.0; 94.1; etc..... ) %

you can not use the engine at 100% if you degrade the aero?

welcome Patrick