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Fernando Alonso gets revised Honda F1 engine for Monaco Grand Prix

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... for-monaco

No tokens used.

That means Alonso will not receive a token modified PU till Silverstone or even Hungaroring, at least if his new PU last the desired 4-5 GPs

What about Jenson? How many GPs old is his PU?

Andres125sx wrote:That means Alonso will not receive a token modified PU till Silverstone or even Hungaroring, at least if his new PU last the desired 4-5 GPs

What about Jenson? How many GPs old is his PU?

But what if the part that is going to be updated is the TC? He could change to the updated one in Canada right? He doesn't have a new TC for Monaco.

About Jenson, it's 3 so far (China, Russia, Spain)

Andres125sx wrote:That means Alonso will not receive a token modified PU till Silverstone or even Hungaroring, at least if his new PU last the desired 4-5 GPs

Well, it is in his "pool of engines" now, that doesn't mean that they can introduce another engine at the next track and use this one for less power hungry tracks later in the season.

Ok, I stand corrected by both of you

jonas_linder wrote:

Andres125sx wrote:That means Alonso will not receive a token modified PU till Silverstone or even Hungaroring, at least if his new PU last the desired 4-5 GPs

Well, it is in his "pool of engines" now, that doesn't mean that they can introduce another engine at the next track and use this one for less power hungry tracks later in the season.

I don't think McHonda would hesitate to take a penalty for extra PU used.

Andres125sx wrote:That means Alonso will not receive a token modified PU till Silverstone or even Hungaroring, at least if his new PU last the desired 4-5 GPs

What about Jenson? How many GPs old is his PU?

I think he will have token updated TC and ERS in Canada whit Monaco spec ICE

I think the driveability of the engine is bad. Does anyone else notice that Alonso and JB are very hush on the drievability? It could be what is holding back the so called third best chassis, in Monaco.

PlatinumZealot wrote:I think the driveability of the engine is bad. Does anyone else notice that Alonso and JB are very hush on the drievability? It could be what is holding back the so called third best chassis, in Monaco.

It could also be that there is no drivability problem to speak of.

In post Monaco race interview for Spanish press, Alonso speaks about tokens used in an upgraded PU for Montreal...

Source :Muramassa



Regarding token use, Hasegawa made some key/interesting remarks back on Thursday, so I just pass this info/quote early
(dotted parts are Hasegawa quote)
http://www.as-web.jp/f1/18201

it's no longer a stage where we are waiting for it, we want to introduce it as soon as possible. When/after we are able to confirm the outcome/achievement, we'd like to inform you like "to tell you the truth, what we've put was actually something like this".

- Eric B answering to Japan's FujiTV
"The timing of token introduction has been decided, but I cannot reveal."


(situation like putting token upgrade to JB's PU only first at Canada can happen?) We are not introducing upgrade separately (between drivers). Even if use token, it is ok that engine block itself is the same/unchanged, so in terms of engine itself we are going with the same one.

Alonso's new ICE for Monaco received reliability upgrade
This time's reliability upgrade is a measure that takes future prospect into consideration. We could confirm the reliability that one PU goes through 4GPs, but in order to further increase power and mileage at the same time in future, there were areas that required reinforcement. So we took measure for that (with reliability upgrade for Monaco).


bit scattered so to summarize:
- when to use token decided already but wont tell when in advance (Eric B, Hasegawa)
- nuance of Hasegawa comment suggest it's imminent (canada or the one next rather than many races later)
- From Hasegawa's comment above ("go with same engine block" part), the writer is guessing the change can be for those non-restricted components, same as what Merc and Ferrari did at Sochi, hence it might be injection or ignition related rather than one or few of the 6 sealed/restricted components itself, which I think is legit guessing and one of the possibilities

PlatinumZealot wrote:I think the driveability of the engine is bad. Does anyone else notice that Alonso and JB are very hush on the drievability? It could be what is holding back the so called third best chassis, in Monaco.

Boulier has said they are struggling with lack of grip because of the high tire pressure...not PU drivability

why did Honda change Alonso's engine? was the engine that was used in spain race damaged?

amho wrote:why did Honda change Alonso's engine? was the engine that was used in spain race damaged?

He got a reliability update.