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I think honda is a decent engine , its not the best but in the reanult 2016 range but the chassis is probably the weakest link of the two and if you compare the season so far, mclaren honda came closest to redbull in a power cirucit like sochi, they were only 0.2 of outqualifying the fastest redbull, but in tracks that are more aero and chassis circuit like monaco mclaren struggled. if not for max vertstappen crash, i dont think mclaren would have got into Q3 , and luckily the rain came down on sunday and we saw lot of the top cars crash out, Mclaren however did the best pitwork out there to get alonso ahead of rosberg and sainz, . both rosberg and sainz were furious with the pitcrews afterward. Since we know how hard is to overtake in monaco , rosberg and sainz had absolutley now chance to overtake, but just compared alonso pace , it was horrible, we heard both drivers complain about understeering car and chassis inbalance during practice sesssion. we heard numours time jenson complaining about oversteering during other race track, the problem is in with the chassis. And hopefully it get sorted out because an inbalance car will never give a quick time in any race track. i understand why Eric position, he is in danger of losing his position because of all the ridiculuss claim he made before monaco, but the reality is mclaren chassis is probably 5 or 6 best. Mclaren previous chassis in 2013 and 2014 were really not good, even with a mercedes engine. I totally understand why ron does not want honda to be shared with redbull or torro rosso, those 2 chassis are pretty good and if they perform better with a honda engine. honda will probably leave mclaren. we already heard paddie lowe saying both renault and honda are ahead of 2015 ferrari engine from their data, that absoluelty true. mclaren chassis needs to be improve alot to catch up

This Honda update should reduce fuel consumption and improve race pace?

¿Honda will be finally able to race the 125.000 Rpm turbo charge this could be the update tc?because they still have the tc inside the V of the engine.

The new turbo charge could be the 125.000 rpm the one they cant use last year reliable for a entire race this could be good for the mgu-h to work at full speed most times

Breaking News:

New fuel set to boost McLaren Honda and new Turbo will deliver and improve 0.0001 sec per lap. =D>

namao wrote:Breaking News:

New fuel set to boost McLaren Honda and new Turbo will deliver and improve 0.0001 sec per lap. =D>

They stated that fuel upgrade alone can give 0,1 sec per lap in some circuits. Where that 0,0001 comes from?

......There is no need for using insulting language. Your point can be made as per edited post.

Take this for what you will guys.
A fellow on the Autosport Forum posted this in relation to Monaco.

I have no idea of it's credibility and can't read anything apart from english, but I get the general idea.



You guys will understand if it's legit or not more than me.
What do you think ?

Webber2011 wrote:Take this for what you will guys.
A fellow on the Autosport Forum posted this in relation to Monaco.

I have no idea of it's credibility and can't read anything apart from english, but I get the general idea.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b62 ... wvfmgs.jpg

You guys will understand if it's legit or not more than me.
What do you think ?

http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 17#p640817

techman wrote:I think honda is a decent engine , its not the best but in the reanult 2016 range but the chassis is probably the weakest link of the two and if you compare the season so far, mclaren honda came closest to redbull in a power cirucit like sochi, they were only 0.2 of outqualifying the fastest redbull, but in tracks that are more aero and chassis circuit like monaco mclaren struggled. if not for max vertstappen crash, i dont think mclaren would have got into Q3 , and luckily the rain came down on sunday and we saw lot of the top cars crash out, Mclaren however did the best pitwork out there to get alonso ahead of rosberg and sainz, . both rosberg and sainz were furious with the pitcrews afterward. Since we know how hard is to overtake in monaco , rosberg and sainz had absolutley now chance to overtake, but just compared alonso pace , it was horrible, we heard both drivers complain about understeering car and chassis inbalance during practice sesssion. we heard numours time jenson complaining about oversteering during other race track, the problem is in with the chassis. And hopefully it get sorted out because an inbalance car will never give a quick time in any race track. i understand why Eric position, he is in danger of losing his position because of all the ridiculuss claim he made before monaco, but the reality is mclaren chassis is probably 5 or 6 best. Mclaren previous chassis in 2013 and 2014 were really not good, even with a mercedes engine. I totally understand why ron does not want honda to be shared with redbull or torro rosso, those 2 chassis are pretty good and if they perform better with a honda engine. honda will probably leave mclaren. we already heard paddie lowe saying both renault and honda are ahead of 2015 ferrari engine from their data, that absoluelty true. mclaren chassis needs to be improve alot to catch up

Honda will probably leave McLaren? yeah based on the history and heritage they have shared and leaving them without winning! they are here for the long term, so based on your opinion of them leaving McLaren it won't happen.

Juzh wrote:

Webber2011 wrote:Take this for what you will guys.
A fellow on the Autosport Forum posted this in relation to Monaco.

I have no idea of it's credibility and can't read anything apart from english, but I get the general idea.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b62 ... wvfmgs.jpg

You guys will understand if it's legit or not more than me.
What do you think ?

http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 17#p640817

Ahhh ok, I didn't see that one.

Sorry

namao:

New fuel set to boost McLaren Honda and new Turbo will deliver and improve 0.0001 sec per lap. =D>

Well said Sir

mclaren111 wrote:namao:

New fuel set to boost McLaren Honda and new Turbo will deliver and improve 0.0001 sec per lap. =D>

Well said Sir

that means that their fuel is almost on par with the mercs, on par with red bull and definetely better than ferrari

KingHamilton01 wrote:

techman wrote:I totally understand why ron does not want honda to be shared with redbull or torro rosso, those 2 chassis are pretty good and if they perform better with a honda engine. honda will probably leave mclaren. we already heard paddie lowe saying both renault and honda are ahead of 2015 ferrari engine from their data, that absoluelty true. mclaren chassis needs to be improve alot to catch up

Honda will probably leave McLaren? yeah based on the history and heritage they have shared and leaving them without winning! they are here for the long term, so based on your opinion of them leaving McLaren it won't happen.

How long do you think the Honda "Works" team would be happy being trounced by RBR and TR with the same engine every week?

Webber2011 wrote:Take this for what you will guys.
A fellow on the Autosport Forum posted this in relation to Monaco.

I have no idea of it's credibility and can't read anything apart from english, but I get the general idea.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b62 ... wvfmgs.jpg

You guys will understand if it's legit or not more than me.
What do you think ?

If the data is true. Wow that just a little bit behind merc ..... lol

davidfroshanzen wrote:

Webber2011 wrote:Take this for what you will guys.
A fellow on the Autosport Forum posted this in relation to Monaco.

I have no idea of it's credibility and can't read anything apart from english, but I get the general idea.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b62 ... wvfmgs.jpg

You guys will understand if it's legit or not more than me.
What do you think ?

If the data is true. Wow that just a little bit behind merc ..... lol

It's not true. It's really not much more than guessing what he did. Especially the power curves are pretty much like what a naturally aspirated V8 would be.